Tucker "Cover Up" vs. Mitch Rosen Clipper

[melissa5]

I need an IWB holster for my Colt OACP and I've narrowed it down to these two. One is $75 shipped. The other is $82.50 shipped. So, price is not an issue. One has 4-week turnaround. The other has 2 -3 week turnaround. So, that's not really a factor. They both have a sweat shield as far as I can tell. The Clipper is low riding (which I like). The Cover Up is adjustable as far as height and cant. They both look and sound like they would be great holsters. Does anyone have any experience with either of these? Which do you think would be softer and thinner?

The Clipper is one the left.

http://www.mitchrosen.com/CLP2.jpg http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/rlcompanyusa_2163_16733273

[OldLincoln]

You're sure just those two? Between the two you listed I like the wide metal clip of the Clipper so would have to go with that one.

I'm not sure how the Colt Officer compares to the Colt Commander Lightweight, but my Commander is a lot of gun for a single clip IWB. Now at the time I didn't have much of a belt but I ended up returning the single clip for a Tucker Answer and like it very much.

Garrett also has a model called "What the Tuck" (I know, odd name) that looks like it might be similar but I don't know. Drop Sheryl Garrett an email or call if you want to know for sure how they compare.

[Bawanna]

I'd look at the Silent Thunder or the Silent Thunder Slim myself. It works well with my commander, lots of cant adjustment and ride height adjustment.
I'm not terribly fond of what they refer to as the hybrid, the What the tuck, or crossbreed. They are very comfortable but difficult to put on and take off for me. Just seem like to much holster for a gun.
If you went OWB I'd have a couple other options to mention.

[melissa5]

I don't want a big bunch of leather stuffed inside my pants. That's how those hybrids feel to me. Would something like this be more support? Not that exact holster, but something with belt loops like that.

http://gunsforsale.com/ghg/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/high_noon_tailgunner.jpg

[Bill K]

Melissa, please allow me a comment/opinion even though I'm not knowledgeable about either holster in the particulars. I would not get a holster with a sweat shield that can't be cut or modified. In a confrontation with adrenelin (sp) pumping, depending on how the shield is cut, you could wind up with your thumb behind the shield and as a result muff the draw. Enough said...

Bill K.

[melissa5]

Melissa, please allow me a comment/opinion even though I'm not knowledgeable about either holster in the particulars. I would not get a holster with a sweat shield that can't be cut or modified. In a confrontation with adrenelin (sp) pumping, depending on how the shield is cut, you could wind up with your thumb behind the shield and as a result muff the draw. Enough said...

Bill K.

As always, I appreciate your opinion, Bill K!

[Bawanna]

You figurin on appendix carry for the Oacp Melissa? Like your PM9. So far it looks like all the options you mention would work for that. That last one I was slightly concerned about but it looks like it might work too.

The stitched sweat shield is a viable concern as Bill K so wisely brought up but since you've mentioned preferring having that it might be ok. Its not huge and not larger than it really needs to be.

[melissa5]

You figurin on appendix carry for the Oacp Melissa? Like your PM9. So far it looks like all the options you mention would work for that. That last one I was slightly concerned about but it looks like it might work too.

The stitched sweat shield is a viable concern as Bill K so wisely brought up but since you've mentioned preferring having that it might be ok. Its not huge and not larger than it really needs to be.

Yes, I want to carry it AIWB. That just seems the most comfortable for me. Also, I can't conceal much of anything with it on my side. I'm really leaning toward the Mitch Rosen. FWIW, it has a lower sweat shield than the other two.

[Bawanna]

I'd have to agree given the choices so far. It's minimalist, yet secure. Easy on/off. In some cases less is more ya know.

[melissa5]

It just occurred to me that since the OACP is kind of beat up looking already, I might want to carry it in kydex. That would be less bulky.

[OldLincoln]

I forgot you carry appendix, so you need to look at the Silent Thunder Slim II (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/products/Silent-Thunder-Slim-II.html) which is specifically for appendix carry. I doubt you will consider it too thick in the pic below:
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/OldLincoln/Holsters/STSlim2-Appendex.jpg

[melissa5]

I forgot you carry appendix, so you need to look at the Silent Thunder Slim II (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/products/Silent-Thunder-Slim-II.html) which is specifically for appendix carry. I doubt you will consider it too thick in the pic below:
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx269/OldLincoln/Holsters/STSlim2-Appendex.jpg

That does look nice and not too thick! The website says it's for 3" or less barrels. Mine is 3.5". :(

[Bawanna]

They are great folks to talk to. I emailed several times and they were very helpful. Even looking at that picture and the pictures on their website I was surprised how thin it really is.
They guided me towards the standard Silent Thunder since if you carry the slim too far back they said it was slightly less stable. I'd think in the appendix position it would work good.

I'm not sure what their 3" and under logic is. I'd ask em. I didn't figure kydex would be very comfy on an IWB rig but it really is comfy. Even being a little snug being as I'm at full IWB capacity for my current wardrobe it's still thin enough to work.

[Willieboy]

Hi Mellissa. Just a note on the Mitch Rosen Clipper. I have one for my PM9 and I thought it rode too low. Also, mine tends to shift or wobble on my belt so the cant is ever changing. My gunbelt is from Tucker so it's a good belt, just not the perfect size for the clip.
Combining the changing position of the gun from front to back, and the deep ride of the holster, I worry I cannot get a consistently good grip on the gun.

I'm a Silent Thunder fan too and have my third ST is on the way to Billville.

[ltxi]

Always willing to learn, but I've been carrying my PM9 in a MR Clipper from day one. Works very well for me. I even bought a spare. Can't speak to how well it could work with a 1911. My preferred IWB holster for that is a Galco NSA.

[OldLincoln]

You can get the answers you are looking for by calling Garrett Industries and go through it all with Ron Garrett. He won't sell you a holster he isn't sure will work for you.

I "think" the thing with the 3" barrel is that much longer in the appendix will poke you in uncomfortable places. What happens when you simply hold your unloaded 1911 tightly in the appendix and sit down? Seems like it would hit you in the thigh, dig into your appendix, or be forced up. My chest went south a few years ago and now the center of it is my belly button. I tried my gun everywhere by tightly wrapping a belt around it and my waist and sitting, standing, twisting. Appendix just isn't for me but you need to check this one out. Please call Ron at 713-828-4459 and let us know what he says.

PS: Also check out his sections on "So You Want to Buy a Holster" (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/news/2/So-You-Want-To-Buy-A-Holster....html) and the Holster Comparison Chart (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/news/1/Holster-Comparison-Chart.html).

[melissa5]

I thought about it and decided to try a Dale Frike Archangel. I've looked at it before but didn't want to spend that much. This time I decided to go for it because I can use it with the Defender and OACP.

http://www.dalefrickeholsters.com/images/archangel2.jpg

[Bill K]

I thought about it and decided to try a Dale Frike Archangel. I've looked at it before but didn't want to spend that much. This time I decided to go for it because I can use it with the Defender and OACP.


Nice holster. I've read some very good things about the Archangel.

Just out of curiosity, did you give any thought to the Remora holster which seems to also get some very good reviews both here at KahrTalk and elsewhere? Don't know if I could get past the no-clip design feature.

Bill K.

[melissa5]

No, I didn't look at the Remora for the same reason you mentioned.

[jocko]

today I watched some sportsmans show on dish tv and was very surpirse dto see Kahr as one of the sponsors. and then seeing cross breads video, the gun they used as a model for their holster was the PM9 . NOT ONE OF THOSE NASTY BIG HOLE SLOW MOVING 45's but a real down to earth pocket gun. I even think I heard the fella say that ol jocko recommened it. I could be wrong on that.

[Bawanna]

today I watched some sportsmans show on dish tv and was very surpirse dto see Kahr as one of the sponsors. and then seeing cross breads video, the gun they used as a model for their holster was the PM9 . NOT ONE OF THOSE NASTY BIG HOLE SLOW MOVING 45's but a real down to earth pocket gun. I even think I heard the fella say that ol jocko recommened it. I could be wrong on that.

Jocko knows! Just do it! Words to live by.

[Bill K]

today I watched some sportsmans show on dish tv and was very surpirse dto see Kahr as one of the sponsors. and then seeing cross breads video, the gun they used as a model for their holster was the PM9 . NOT ONE OF THOSE NASTY BIG HOLE SLOW MOVING 45's but a real down to earth pocket gun. I even think I heard the fella say that ol jocko recommened it. I could be wrong on that.

Never could understand the .45 ACP bigotry when it is so easy to colver leaf 3 9mm rounds from the PM9; effectively an ~.75 caliber hole. ;)

[Bawanna]

Never could understand the .45 ACP bigotry when it is so easy to colver leaf 3 9mm rounds from the PM9; effectively an ~.75 caliber hole. ;)

I really don't consider myself part of the 45 bigotry but I do feel that having to shoot twice is just slly.

[Bill K]

I really don't consider myself part of the 45 bigotry but I do feel that having to shoot twice is just slly.

Touche... :)

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