entoptics
06-30-2011, 02:50 AM
1) Anyone have trouble with cor-bon 115 +P feeding in their CW9?
Unlike most of the reports here, my CW9 has fired approximately 700 rounds without a misfeed (including "break in"). I've fired 7 or 8 different 115 FMJs, and 3 115 JHPs. I had two misfeed recently. One right after the other. You guessed it, the above mentioned Cor-bon.
I'm aware that guns are individual creatures, but I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a problem. The bullets are too expensive to do extensive testing, so my sample is only 2 failures in 15 rounds. For every single other round I've fired it's 0 failures in 30-300 rounds.
The Cor-bon appears to work great in my G17 (0 failures in 30 rounds). Perhaps the short stubby HP and gigantic cavity don't jive with the CW9.
2a) Newbie update - Customer service
Love the gun, but I'm EXTREMELY unimpressed with Kahr quality control and customer service.
Had to fight tooth and nail, and was ping-ponged between Trijicon and Kahr Cust Serv, to get the defective night sight replaced. Several hours of trouble. In the end it was taken care of.
During the night sight fiasco, I brought up the sticky no-drop OG 7 round mag problem. They shipped a brand new mag to me. It's stickier than the factory original. I measured the mags, and they bulge at the bend for the feed lips by 0.02". The two Kahr factory 8 rounders I have do not bulge and drop free like butter.
In summary, they need to get the Quality Control and Customer Service lads together and give them a stern talking too.
2b) Newbie update - Gun performance
What's not to love. It's on par with my G17 in accuracy. It's comfy. It's reliable. Wife really likes it.
Minor (and predictable) downsides are...
I'll post chrony data if anyone is interested, but in summary the Kahr is 5-10% slower than the glock in all my chronograph tests. +P JHP tended to be closer than "bulk" FMJ (5% and 8% respectively). At least in my gun, that means you aren't sacrificing as much power with self defense loads for the compact vs full size gun.
The crazy long trigger pull/reset is VERY slow for fast shooting. I find it's actually slow enough to affect speed at relatively long ranges (e.g. when target acquisition would normally take much longer than the trigger sequence)
Recoil is friskier than I thought at first. After shooting it from a rest side by side with the G17, I realize it's pretty saucy. By no means painful or scary, but I'm guessing my upcoming speed drill comparison will be considerably slower than the G17 or my buddies Sig P6. Not really surprising though.
Anyway, just thought I'd update. I don't regret adding the CW9 to my collection one bit. It's a fine pistol.
If anyone is interested in my chrony tests, just holler and I'll post it up. I intended to do some more testing, but my wife shot my chrony with the CW9. Waiting on a replacement box.:7:
Unlike most of the reports here, my CW9 has fired approximately 700 rounds without a misfeed (including "break in"). I've fired 7 or 8 different 115 FMJs, and 3 115 JHPs. I had two misfeed recently. One right after the other. You guessed it, the above mentioned Cor-bon.
I'm aware that guns are individual creatures, but I'm curious if anyone else has noticed a problem. The bullets are too expensive to do extensive testing, so my sample is only 2 failures in 15 rounds. For every single other round I've fired it's 0 failures in 30-300 rounds.
The Cor-bon appears to work great in my G17 (0 failures in 30 rounds). Perhaps the short stubby HP and gigantic cavity don't jive with the CW9.
2a) Newbie update - Customer service
Love the gun, but I'm EXTREMELY unimpressed with Kahr quality control and customer service.
Had to fight tooth and nail, and was ping-ponged between Trijicon and Kahr Cust Serv, to get the defective night sight replaced. Several hours of trouble. In the end it was taken care of.
During the night sight fiasco, I brought up the sticky no-drop OG 7 round mag problem. They shipped a brand new mag to me. It's stickier than the factory original. I measured the mags, and they bulge at the bend for the feed lips by 0.02". The two Kahr factory 8 rounders I have do not bulge and drop free like butter.
In summary, they need to get the Quality Control and Customer Service lads together and give them a stern talking too.
2b) Newbie update - Gun performance
What's not to love. It's on par with my G17 in accuracy. It's comfy. It's reliable. Wife really likes it.
Minor (and predictable) downsides are...
I'll post chrony data if anyone is interested, but in summary the Kahr is 5-10% slower than the glock in all my chronograph tests. +P JHP tended to be closer than "bulk" FMJ (5% and 8% respectively). At least in my gun, that means you aren't sacrificing as much power with self defense loads for the compact vs full size gun.
The crazy long trigger pull/reset is VERY slow for fast shooting. I find it's actually slow enough to affect speed at relatively long ranges (e.g. when target acquisition would normally take much longer than the trigger sequence)
Recoil is friskier than I thought at first. After shooting it from a rest side by side with the G17, I realize it's pretty saucy. By no means painful or scary, but I'm guessing my upcoming speed drill comparison will be considerably slower than the G17 or my buddies Sig P6. Not really surprising though.
Anyway, just thought I'd update. I don't regret adding the CW9 to my collection one bit. It's a fine pistol.
If anyone is interested in my chrony tests, just holler and I'll post it up. I intended to do some more testing, but my wife shot my chrony with the CW9. Waiting on a replacement box.:7: