View Full Version : Texas executes Mexican after court stay rejected
wyntrout
07-07-2011, 11:08 PM
Yay, Texas! Don't mess with Texas!
Rick Perry for President!:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-executes-mexican-court-stay-rejected-233305430.html
Wynn:)
yqtszhj
07-07-2011, 11:22 PM
You know, do the crime here, pay the price. 17 years to get it done? seems like that was rather generous.
MikeyKahr
07-07-2011, 11:46 PM
Gotta love our wonderful President chiming in on the last day and saying the convicted felon's life should be spared by the Governor - isn't there more important business to take care of in DC rather than nosing in to Texas? Seems to me like Texas has its ducks in a row.:blah: President Obama didn't just do that because it might be his future opponent in 2012 now, did he?
The 17 years between his crime and execution is more time than his victim got between her birth and when he raped her and beat her to death. I'm finding it hard to muster up any sympathy for this guy.
Dietrich
07-08-2011, 02:05 AM
The 17 years between his crime and execution is more time than his victim got between her birth and when he raped her and beat her to death. I'm finding it hard to muster up any sympathy for this guy.
I have no sympathy for him.May he burn in Hell.And Obama in the room next to him.
jocko
07-08-2011, 06:46 AM
and to add to that the POS for over 15 years denied he did it and then on his death bed he asks for forgiveness for killing that girl. FOKK HIM AND THE oBAMA ADM for trying a political end run to turn the hispanics on PERRY if he decides to run, and finally KUDOS to the Surpreme court for going out and having a cup of coffee over this thing and paying no attention to it. (although it was 5 to 4)_
Had this guy been a "white american". He would have died and no one would have cared, let alone tried to get a stay, after 15 years, which is 14 years 360- days to to long Hell that is what happens every damn time the POS killer sits there for 15 years and then people start to feel sorry for him and completely forget a bout the hanious crime he committed.
May we never forget CALLEE ANTHONY!!
Diocoles
07-08-2011, 06:55 AM
^ +1 and it should have happened a lot sooner.
The U.S. should sue the mexican gov't and his family for the costs to the American taxpayers as well.
Willieboy
07-08-2011, 07:05 AM
All I can say to that scumbag is, Adios!
Obama really is a piece of work. What a zany nut he his.
georgepittenger
07-08-2011, 07:07 AM
"One more thing," he said as the drugs began taking effect. Then he shouted twice, "Viva Mexico!"
If only the POS had stayed there to indulge his misdeeds............
OBama sucks
Holder sucks
These guys on death row get WAY to much consideration and it takes WAY to long for justice to be served . :mad:
Willieboy
07-08-2011, 07:14 AM
When I first moved to Texas, from Chicago in 1985, I thought Texas was a little peculiar. For example, it was LEGAL to drink and drive. But I have to tell you though, the conservative and religious values held here are really growing on me. Wynn got it right, "Don't mess with Texas." These folks know right from wrong and expect people to behave accordingly. As an aside, Ruch Limbaugh uttered this related ditty on the radio, "If you want to do the crime, but don't want to do he time,... do the crime in Florida. Personally, I think it would generally be a BIG mistake to mess with Florida as well.
I think Rich Perry would make a good president. Texas sure seems to work.
mr surveyor
07-08-2011, 09:11 AM
and don't forget, "the wun" was trying to place some lame assed meaningless international treaty b.s. over Texas law. The scumbag had 17 years to appeal based on the international crap .... and waited until "the wun" found some stinking little detail to dredge up to take a cheap shot at Perry and Texas. "the wun" would love nothing better than to drag Texas down to the level of the lowest common denominator amongst the 50 states, rather than find what makes Texas work and apply some of it to the federal level.
Pantywaist politics are destroying our system of self government.
surv
jocko
07-08-2011, 11:27 AM
indeed ur right surv. and with thoday announcement of 9.2% unemplpoytment rate, one can certainly feel confident that the "twit" has everything under control.
Oh boy....now we're in real trouble with the U.N.!! Why, they may even get up and leave the US over this one!! :p
jlottmc
07-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Dare we hope that? Thing about Texas, like Ron White says, "You kill someone here and we'll kill ya back." There is a newer law that basically puts an express lane for execution in place now, no more time like that. In my corrections practices class, I read an interesting statistic, China, Iran, and the US are the worlds leading executors, and in the US, Texas does a full third of them. Think about that for a minute, the US is the third largest state executor, and Texas is a third of that, including the Federal Gov., and ALL other states and territories.
knkali
07-09-2011, 09:25 AM
political agendas aside in this thread, it seems as if many here would prefer the castilian view of justice rather than our view. In Mexico, I believe that they hold the castilian view.... that you are guilty until proven innocent. I prefer our system. Although it is not as swift or straight forward as it could be, I would prefer if I use my weapon in SD that I am innocent of murder until proven guilty. This approach 'helps" prevent innocent people from being executed. Our judicial system, while not perfect, is probably the best in the world. God bless America.
JFootin
07-09-2011, 11:48 AM
You know, when I think about what is the proper punishment for a crime, there is something glaringly missing from the discussion of punishment for child abusers. We have these new laws requiring them to report where they are residing, and forbidding them from being too close to schools or playgrounds, and such. And, why? Because it is a proven fact that most of them never reform and are repeat offenders. But what I never hear mentioned, anywhere, in the discussion seems so obvious to me: why don't we remove their equipment?
Now, I know that the fella who gets on the list because he had a 16 year old girl friend in high school doesn't need this done to him, nor does he need to be on one of those lists and harassed about where he lives. But don't these serial predators need to be disarmed? It might even save their souls. And it would probably stop the repeated offenses 99.9% of the time.
You know, Jesus said, "If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell." (Mat 5:29)
Just saying.....
Goldstar225
07-09-2011, 02:12 PM
political agendas aside in this thread, it seems as if many here would prefer the castilian view of justice rather than our view. In Mexico, I believe that they hold the castilian view.... that you are guilty until proven innocent. I prefer our system. Although it is not as swift or straight forward as it could be, I would prefer if I use my weapon in SD that I am innocent of murder until proven guilty. This approach 'helps" prevent innocent people from being executed. Our judicial system, while not perfect, is probably the best in the world. God bless America.
Sorry by I think that you mis-interpret the other posters. He was convicted 17 years ago after haveing been presumed innocent prior to his trial. The gripe is (1) it took so long for justice to be carried out and (2) our president showing more concern for the criminal than the victim.
jdlott74
07-10-2011, 03:12 PM
Gotta love our wonderful President chiming in on the last day and saying the convicted felon's life should be spared by the Governor - isn't there more important business to take care of in DC rather than nosing in to Texas? Seems to me like Texas has its ducks in a row.:blah: President Obama didn't just do that because it might be his future opponent in 2012 now, did he?
But yet, the dumb **** wants to put his two cents in at the last minute, but doesn't want to approve disaster relief for some counties here that have had forest fires and taken out 1/2 the county here in TX. Granted I realize, TN, Alabama and all of these needed the disaster relief and got it as they should have but WHAT constitutes the federal government and administration to declare disaster relief for federal funding.
As much as we like Gov. Perry here, we don't think he'll get into the White House and see him more as a Vice Pres contender at this point. Although the NRA is going to be pulling for him 100%.
wyntrout
07-10-2011, 10:21 PM
I'll bet that not too many other governors CCW, though most wouldn't think of the need. Not too many have had a pistol commissioned their honor by Ruger, either... the coyote episode. :D
I would sure vote for him.
I still remember the good feeling when we sent Ma Richards packing. I can still see her talking about "W" ... "Pore Gorge, he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth."
If I hadn't gotten back to my birth state and been living here for over 14 more years, Texas would still be the place I've spent the most time... almost 9 years in Abilene and over 5 in San Antonio. My wife was born in Wichita Falls(1956) and my daughter in San Antonio while I was at Dyess AFB in 1975. My time wasn't all military service... several childhood residences, too.
I WAS a Texan until I got back to Florida in '97. I left Florida at age 7 and had only been back for very short visits with my father.
Wynn:)
mr surveyor
07-10-2011, 11:57 PM
Wyn
As a native and lifetime Texan I am hereby authorized to grant you dual citizenship....no matter if you're a native Floridian or what... you're a Texan too:D
surv
jdlott74
07-11-2011, 09:04 PM
If I hadn't gotten back to my birth state and been living here for over 14 more years, Texas would still be the place I've spent the most time... almost 9 years in Abilene and over 5 in San Antonio. My wife was born in Wichita Falls(1956) and my daughter in San Antonio while I was at Dyess AFB in 1975. My time wasn't all military service... several childhood residences, too.
Wynn:)
I'm sorry you were in Abilene...What a crappy town!!! There is NOTHING there except Dyess. If Dyess wasn't there, Abilene would fall off the face of the map. Heck, same goes for San Angelo too and I like San Angelo a LOT better than Abilene any day. Course, kinda helps that jlottmc's best friend lives in San Angelo and his worthless sperm donor lives in Abilene.
wyntrout
07-11-2011, 11:21 PM
Thanks, Surv'. I've always liked Texas and considered it my home. I had a choice after my bomb nav training and chose Dyess over March AFB near LA in Southern California. That was an easy choice, but the Air Force really wanted me to go out to Riverside.
I had some good times and good friends in Abilene. They had an active Ham Radio Club, a sporting club or range club of sorts with a decent trap and skeet range and a 200-yard rifle/pistol range. I had some USAF hunting buddies and did some "community" shotshell reloading for/with them... brews were involved and my garage was the hangout.
We had lots of parties, too, before the emphasis on not drinking so much and driving. I think drinking while driving was legal back in the 70's. :D
I thought we would be staying in San Antonio for retirement, but my wife wanted to go Northwest and later Southeast... lower cost of living. It was kind of boring in San Antonio... once you've seen the Alamo... And the RIVERWALK. The Riverwalk was too damn crowded with tourists and you were in danger of winding up IN the the river!
I like it here in Jacksonville, though I miss having a boat. We have all kinds of water... and water critters... sharks... alligators... and drunk or untrained boaters... more than a few hazards, besides shallow water and low tides.
Wynn:)
mr surveyor
07-11-2011, 11:47 PM
Wyn
my sister's first husband was stationed in Abilene in the early-mid 70's. He was a fighter pilot, and eventually ended up in Laredo when my sister decided being a "junior officer's wife" (b u t t kisser to the senior officer's wives) just wasn't the life she could deal with...too danged independent. She was teaching in Abilene while they were there, and always felt the need to be prepared to have a "plan B" for self defense in the classroom. I don't think Laredo was any improvement. Last I heard, her ex retired as a Lt Col.... he always treated me like a sub-species, although I really wanted to like him. His loss:D
It's always been strange how military base town tend to degenerate to the lowest common denominator for communities.
The best thing about Abilene to me is that it's the halfway point to my dove hunting lease (7 hours and still well within Texas on both ends of the trip:))
surv
edit to correct my memory...he was first in Laredo...then Abeline...then all over the world
wyntrout
07-12-2011, 02:15 AM
Definitely his loss. Some guys are likable and easy going... others a-holes. I was always joking a lot and pretty easy to get along with... not serious enough too often. I come to find out I'm pretty lazy and a procrastinator. As a navigator, those are not good qualities. It takes a lot of planning for missions, and the more time spent pre-planning and preparing for contingencies, the easier the flights went.
My first wife didn't like me spending money and time with computers and radio equipment. She did like shooting, though. She would blaze away at the pistol range with .38's. We're still good friends, but I got a real keeper with my second wife. I couldn't run her off... thankfully!
Wynn:)
jocko
07-12-2011, 07:12 AM
TYPICAL IRS. The nice guy who caught Jeeter's 3000 hits and returned the ballto him and was given season box seats to allthe games, yadda yadda. Now that fokking IRS wants to collect taxes on this as earned income...The little man has no chance todayand I sure don't men someone 5' short either...
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