Took another look at the PM9 today...

[JimC]

and had my dealer order a PM9094N for me.
A couple of weeks ago I decided against getting the PM9 after handling it for various reasons but I obviously changed my mind. ;)
It will be in next week sometime.
I've already ordered 3 extra mags from Cheaper Than Dirt @ a savings of $11.67 per mag over the Kahr web site.

[PaiN]

What made you change your mind?....
I had kind of the opposite happen when I went to a shop for a CM9. It didn't feel as good as I remembered especially compared to some other offerings(also didn't help that the shop was gouging the price somewhat)

[jocko]

either model with ur eyes closed, one can't feel any difference, certainly one is as good as the other as far as functionality goes. no doubt in m,y little mind two of kahrs finest guns..

[JimC]

[QUOTE=PaiN;81936]What made you change your mind?....
QUOTE]

I'm not quite sure. I've been reading the postings here since the day I first decided against buying the first one that I looked at.
There are many happy PM9 owners here and I had to ask myself why?
I'm hoping that the action on the one that I have on order is better than the one that I handled.
I'm still not thrilled about the looong trigger pull of the Kahr.
The price OTD on the one ordered was as good as any price that I could have gotten buying online and then paying shipping and then a transfer fee.
If the PM9 doesn't impress me like my G27 has for 15 years, it will be up for sale PDQ! ;)

[Joe L]

JimC--It is pretty quick to get used to the trigger. I have a 3# 1911 and a couple of da/sa SIGs so Kahr trigger was "different". Now I love it because it is so smooth and consistent, best DAO out there.
Joe

[crazymailman]

Jim, do not be surprised if the action of the PM9 is stiff and somewhat rough. Most are when they are new, but after a few rounds they become much better.

[jocko]

sounds to me like u might be going into this buy with a negative feeling already.. NOt sure that G27 will fit in ur front pocket either. two different guns indeed, if you use one to compare for the other either will then dissapoint you, IMO. U ain't gonna find a better gun than the pm9 FOR WHAT IT IS DESIGNED FOR. tHE LOOOOONG TRIGGER IS there by design, it is ur only true safety on your kahr. I will tell u this, it wil lbe smoother than your glock is but it is longer. Two different trigger systems, IMO not really fair to compare either against either, but that is ur call.

My G19 is a total shooter NOW it was stiff at first and a shi-ty trigger indeed but after a super job by Accurate Iron specialist, Mike Cwyrus, this gun is just a great shooter, but it sure spends a hell of alot of time sitting in my vanity drawer to, as my PM9 rides in my front pocket 24/7:blah::blah:

Kahrs are tighter than any gun ur ever gonna own, but rounds down range and soon the gun just seems to get smoother all through. If u can't shoot a double action revolver, then IMO u not gonna fall in love with ur kahr.

[JimC]

Thanks for all the positive comments guys.
I've been at this shootin' game a long time (50 years or so) and have fired just about every pistol that one would find out there and I've owned many of them from time to time.
I've got enough 9mm ammo on hand to break the Kahr in over and over.
I will shoot the you know what out of it the first few days that it's here. :)
Compare it next to my G27? You bet I will and I understand completely that they are two different pistols. The G27 has been good to me for a little over 15 years as an off-duty weapon and then my weapon of choice, most of the time, for CCW as a retired LEO and I use it to qualify for the LEOSA yearly.


NOt sure that G27 will fit in ur front pocket either.

I don't carry pistols in my pocket(s).

[JimC]

I received the call today from my dealer that the little Kahr PM9 was in.
It was a good day today, 3 extra 6 rd. mags arrived along with a couple of Pearce mag extensions.
My Speer GD short bbl. 124 gr. +p ammo will be here tomorrow.
I'm waiting on an IWB holster from Comp-Tac to arrive.
I have an assortment of 9mm ball and HP ammo set aside for a range session come this Monday when I will put the little pistol thru the paces. ;)
I have managed to take it apart several times and put it back together w/o any problems.
I cleaned it and lubed it.

[Bill K]

Best of luck with your new Kahr.

The trigger pull of the PM9, which I feel isn't really bad, is a small price to pay for a great SD pistol sans thumb safety.

Bill K.

[zhills]

sounds to me like u might be going into this buy with a negative feeling already.. NOt sure that G27 will fit in ur front pocket either. two different guns indeed, if you use one to compare for the other either will then dissapoint you, IMO. U ain't gonna find a better gun than the pm9 FOR WHAT IT IS DESIGNED FOR. tHE LOOOOONG TRIGGER IS there by design, it is ur only true safety on your kahr. I will tell u this, it wil lbe smoother than your glock is but it is longer. Two different trigger systems, IMO not really fair to compare either against either, but that is ur call.

My G19 is a total shooter NOW it was stiff at first and a shi-ty trigger indeed but after a super job by Accurate Iron specialist, Mike Cwyrus, this gun is just a great shooter, but it sure spends a hell of alot of time sitting in my vanity drawer to, as my PM9 rides in my front pocket 24/7:blah::blah:

Kahrs are tighter than any gun ur ever gonna own, but rounds down range and soon the gun just seems to get smoother all through. If u can't shoot a double action revolver, then IMO u not gonna fall in love with ur kahr.

I have to totally agree with Jocko, the PM models and CM9 are not range guns, the DAO is your only safety. and when the BG is five feet from you. pulling his weapon, your not going to notice that trigger pull at all, I find the PM's and CM's to have some of the smoothest trigger pulls around. Much nicer than my DAO Ruger .380 LCP. Or even my single action Ruger P94-DC.40 cal. at 5 -6 pound trigger pull.

[TheTman]

Best of luck on your purchase, hope she works out for you. That long trigger is the reason I went with Kahr. You get used to it pretty quick if you keep an open mind.
For sure it's not a target/competition gun, but it's great for conceal carry.

[Suthrncop66]

I carry mine off duty ALL the time. It is by far my favorite... I have all kinds just love the kahr.. My duty weapon is a sig 226 elite..have xd's, xdm's, glock, s&w 627, 1006..still love the kahr

[jocko]

ur not gonna find a smoother trigger than the kahrs, u might get some guns that are just as smooth (maybe) but the trigger design of the kahr just damn near prohibuts anythng but a smooth trigger..

[frank_drebin]

Just a side note to check the slide stop spring when reassembling. I have read countless complains of Kahrs where the user was at fault for bending that silly little spring when reassembling the gun. It's easy to get wrong so make sure the tab goes UNDER the spring each time.

[JimC]

Just a side note to check the slide stop spring when reassembling. I have read countless complains of Kahrs where the user was at fault for bending that silly little spring when reassembling the gun. It's easy to get wrong so make sure the tab goes UNDER the spring each time.

Thanks. I noticed early on that this spring appears to be rather frail. I'm not impressed with the design but it is what it is I guess.
I've only had one slight problem with re-assembly, the end of the recoil spring worked it's way slightly thru the hole in the front of the slide and would not allow the slide to go on.
I stopped and checked everything and found the issue. This seems to be an area that will require attention with the orientation of the recoil spring.
As many have said, this little pistol is tight.
I don't like they way three of my 5 mags won't drop clear of the weapon when the mag release is pushed. :mad:

[Rainman48314]

Thanks. I noticed early on that this spring appears to be rather frail. I'm not impressed with the design but it is what it is I guess.
I've only had one slight problem with re-assembly, the end of the recoil spring worked it's way slightly thru the hole in the front of the slide and would not allow the slide to go on.
I stopped and checked everything and found the issue. This seems to be an area that will require attention with the orientation of the recoil spring.
As many have said, this little pistol is tight.
I don't like they way three of my 5 mags won't drop clear of the weapon when the mag release is pushed. :mad:Mag drop improved with time. Some have found the need to slightly pinch in the uppermost part of the mag. Some magwells have burrs.

[Jitterbug]

For what the little pistol is, I love the trigger on the PM9... smooth as a maiden's cheek.

Good luck with yours Jim

[jocko]

Thanks. I noticed early on that this spring appears to be rather frail. I'm not impressed with the design but it is what it is I guess.
I've only had one slight problem with re-assembly, the end of the recoil spring worked it's way slightly thru the hole in the front of the slide and would not allow the slide to go on.
I stopped and checked everything and found the issue. This seems to be an area that will require attention with the orientation of the recoil spring.
As many have said, this little pistol is tight.
I don't like they way three of my 5 mags won't drop clear of the weapon when the mag release is pushed. :mad:

one inserts the slide stop lever the way kahr tells one to, in the owners manual, as fragile as it may look it is perfectly OK. I can sayt I have in 32,000+ rounds plus replaced that little spring one time. and I have had that slide off the gun at least 300 times. Most issues in that area are user improper issues. We really don't read of issues in that area consiering they problaby have a couple hundred thousands of their polymer guns out there.. and if u damage it, it is not rocket science to install a new springhy either.

[frank_drebin]

While I agree with you Jocko, I always look at the spring on the case guns at local shops. I went to Autrey's earlier this week and looked at a few CW's they had on the shelf. The one I actually picked up had the spring bent in. When I bought my CW40 last year it was used. I noticed the jacked up spring immediately as well. My guess is that's why it was traded :) Good for me

[jocko]

but you knew what to look for and that could only have come from good kahr forums like this one. But basically it is improper installation of the slide stop and I have found that many never read the owners manuals as they think they are all alike etc, full of safety talk and a parts list. If a person takes care of that slide stop spring, it will give no issues. It looks fragile and maybe to some it is but it is not something that we play with all the time and I do try to use my gun as a model as I can assure u very few have had their slides off as much as I have and I really never had any issues, but I did have to replace the little springhy about 2 months ago, due to what ever. It looked OK but at times I was getting some failure to lock open, so I had 3 new springs in my parts box so using GB6491 tutorial, it took 5 minutes to install a new one But I have had my slide off the gun at leat 300 times and have over 32,000 rounds through it where the springhyt was doing it job and doing it perfect to.. There is no adjustment to it, it either works when new or something else in wrong. A bad recoil spring can also cause failure to lock open as u well know it is all about timeing with these semi's. I would hate to think that a gun shop takes down the slides on these new guns, as my question would be WHY?? If the springhy is bent inward, it is fixable even but one has to know how and what.