about to buy cw9 OR cm9...

[espresso]

OK I've pretty much made up my mind to buy a Kahr cw9 OR cm9 as my first semi auto hand gun. I plan on getting my CC permit in the next 6 mo's or so and plan on this being my carry gun. I know if i want to pocket carry CM9 wins but plan on carry IWB....but would be nice to have that option. The CW9 just feels better in my hands and am leaning that way.

Is the recoil on the cm9 much worse than the cw9?

Does the extra barrel length on the CW9 make it a little more accurate?

Is the CW9 a little more reliable with feeding ammo that the CM9?

I've read up on breaking in my new Kahr so I'm just shopping price on the 2 right now and trying to make up my mind which one to get.

Thanks

[355Nut]

Espresso, can't comment on the CM9, but I love my CW9. A little big for pocket carry in my wardrobe, but works great IWB. I have an Uncle Mike's IWB I carry inside the belt but outside the pants. Works great under a summer shirt or a sweater in the winter, and you can shift it around while sitting down, driving for instance. Have a DeSantis with the mag pouch, but I have not carried with it, as the pistol had to go back to Kahr for a minor problem with striker block fit. CW9 is probably the most natural pointing weapon I have owned, and very accurate for what it is. I can blow down 8" steel plates rapid fire all day long at 15 yards or so- plenty good for a defensive weapon. I don't find the recoil objectionable at all. Sights are great- my near vision is not good, but dotting the I is very easy and accurate.

[JFootin]

Bud's has the CW9 for $366 shipped, but I think they're out right now.

[espresso]

Thanks...Buds is listing them as $418 today they have been $400 for the past week or so. Anybody know of a better price online?

[slowpoke]

CM9 is a great gun. I bought one a few weeks ago and just love it. Can't comment on the CW9 cuz I don't own one but I do have a CW40 that approx the same size and I wouldn't part with it for nothing.
Both guns are 100% reliable.

[Bob G]

I have a CW9 w/CT Lasergrip and love it. I carry IWB in a Kholster and have gone on 10 mile hikes and forget it is there.. I have a CM9 on order and want it as a pocket gun and BUG for the CW9.. Can share CW9 mags with it..Sometimes I just want something to put in a pocket and CW9 is just a little too big.. I say get the CM9 had that been out when I got the CW9 that is the one I would have picked.. But I had a number of other CCW guns.. Either way you won't go wrong..

[yqtszhj]

I had a CW9 and now have a CM9 so I'll give you my opinion on both:

I know if i want to pocket carry CM9 wins but plan on carry IWB....but would be nice to have that option.
I IWB carry my CM9 just like I did my CW9. the CM9 is a little easier IWB because I appendix carry and the shorter barrel is more comfortable. Haven't pocket carried the CM9 yet

The CW9 just feels better in my hands and am leaning that way.
Agree the CW9 is very comfortable as I have large hands and could wrap all 4 fingers around it. Cant beat that. And that gun is Sweet.

Is the recoil on the cm9 much worse than the cw9?
No. Not any noticable difference for me. both are very smooth.

Does the extra barrel length on the CW9 make it a little more accurate?
Maybe but not much that I have noticed with practice.

Is the CW9 a little more reliable with feeding ammo that the CM9?
My CW9 was FLAWLESS. Couldn't beat it. Still too early to tell with the CM9 but looks good so far.

I've read up on breaking in my new Kahr so I'm just shopping price on the 2 right now and trying to make up my mind which one to get.
If you like or need the grip and the extra size doesn't matter, get the CW9. If you are infatuated with good mouse guns like I am, get the CM9. Either way you'll like both. I do miss my CW9 I traded in but have no complaints about my CM9. Like it too. Weight is not that much different, just the little bit in size.

Here's an idea, Get the CW9 first, and in 6 month get the CM9. You can always trade or sell the CW9 if you can stand to part with it.

Just my opinions. You will enjoy whatever you get. Jet us know which you choose.

[CatnPhx]

I hear good things about the CM9 but I've not shot one. My CW9 has been great in a Kholster IWB holster. If your goal is to carry in your pocket then go with a CM9 but for IWB I'd go with the CW9.

Personally, I'd go the CW9 route first and if you feel the need for a pocket carry then add the CM9.

Good luck!!

[JFootin]

Thanks...Buds is listing them as $418 today they have been $400 for the past week or so. Anybody know of a better price online?

Wow. You're right. It was $366 just 3 weeks ago, and they still have CW40s going for that price now:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=40141

Do you think Kahr just raised prices and the CW40s will go up, too, after they have to reorder?

[espresso]

Thanks all

I see plenty here that have both and may just have to beg the wife for another down the road.......I just bought my first hand gun 3 mo's ago a Ruger GP 100 .357.

I can see where this is going.,,,,

I bought a coffee grinder and started grinding my own coffee beans and developed a taste for fine coffee.....15 years and $3000 later I have an espresso machine/grinder/home roaster set up that will make Starbucks taste like instant.

[rkirk]

You say you plan to carry IWB, in that case I would buy the CW9. I think the grip length and extra barrel length make the pistol easier to draw, control and shoot.

I have both pistols and have found the CM9 is easy to carry in a front pocket. I agree with other posts that I would start with the CW9 and add the CM9 later. it is nice to have options, they are both great pistols!

-- Richard

[Bob G]

I want it now!!

[yqtszhj]

Based on what you have purchased for coffee, you better invest in a big vault for your future guns too :D .....

oh, and I'll be glad to come shoot with with you whenever you want as that collection starts growing. Enjoy that new hobbie.

[RogerP9fan]

My CM9 is flawless after fixing a minor issue. Shoots well, feeds everything. Great for pocket carry. I think it's recoil is a little more compared to P9 I owned last year. (Basically same gun as the CW9) (But I sold my P9)
Now, I'm thinking of adding a CW9 for IWB as I prefer to wrap my pinky around the gun too for a full grip. The CW9 is thinner than my CW45 and holds an additional round. I'd use the Kahr flush baseplates for better concealment. Either that or a Walther PPS 9mm lol

[TheTman]

I like having a smaller gun to toss in my pocket when I'm in a hurry and don't want to take the extra minute to put the IWB holster on for my CW40 or .45. That would tip the scales to the CM9 for me. Also like something small and inexpensive enough I can lock in my car for those times I'm in a hurry and forget to arm myself. I've been bad about that lately. Nice to know I have my "car gun" there.

[RogerP9fan]

Good points. On that note, mabe I'll just stick with what I've got.
Mabe there is such a thing as having enough guns. lol

[1radman]

FWIW; I sold my CW9 when the CM9 came out and I now regret selling it. I love my CM9 but IMO the CW9 just shoots better. More grip and barrel translate to slightly better acurracy and slightly less recoil. I found the CW9 carried IWB very easily also. The only advantage to the CM9 would be for pocket carry, which is why I bought it or maybe AIWB. Funny thing is, it almost always ends up IWB at 3-4 oclock or left hip crossdraw...old habits die hard.

[cw45fan]

I've been offering MHO for a long time... That the CW9 is the best middle-of-the-road starter gun value on the planet. I like having my pinkie fully supported. 'Course I don't pocket-carry and I carry an LCP when I feel like goin' real small... but even pack that in an IWB holster. My feeling is that if you're only going with one gun for awhile, the CW9 will double better as a range gun AND as a solid CCW. It's a great all-purpose shooter. (But you'll be fine with either choice.)

[tconroy]

Yes, I too grind my own beans and have a CW9 and a ruger SP101 357 magnum 3 1/16th" revolver. I do like the finer things in life. I think everyone should have a semi auto and a revolver.:D I carry both IWB. or in the front pocket when I ride my cruiser.

[espresso]

Yes, I too grind my own beans and have a CW9 and a ruger SP101 357 magnum 3 1/16th" revolver. I do like the finer things in life. I think everyone should have a semi auto and a revolver.:D I carry both IWB. or in the front pocket when I ride my cruiser.

ScArY :eek:.....I've got a twin! I shot the SP 101 and almost bought one but wanted a good house gun, both me and my wife liked the GP a little better.

cw45 I think you're right on the money. Think I'll go for the CW9 for my first then If I want a pocket gun I'll get a smaller semi auto or a snubbie.

Just trying to find best price now:40:

[espresso]

Well…….the price went back down at Buds and I pulled the trigger on a new CW9! Can’t wait to get her in and start the prepping. I’ve been doing a fair amount of reading/research here but I’m sure I’ll have a few questions as I’ve never cleaned or even taken down a semi auto before.

Thanks to everyone here who chimed in, there’s lots of great info and helpful people here.

[tconroy]

either way you have made a good decision. I have a CW9 and it has been flawless since day 1. I bought it for CC and it has proved to be perfect for this. It is not a pocket carry gun but IWB works well for me. You will love it no doubt. It shoots well, feels good in your hands and is easy to carry.:D

[jocko]

Well…….the price went back down at Buds and I pulled the trigger on a new CW9! Can’t wait to get her in and start the prepping. I’ve been doing a fair amount of reading/research here but I’m sure I’ll have a few questions as I’ve never cleaned or even taken down a semi auto before.

Thanks to everyone here who chimed in, there’s lots of great info and helpful people here.

aboard, the cw9 is just one super handgun, itg will serve u well. do me one thing besides doing the propper prep thing and lub e chart listed in the kahr tech section


READ THE FOKKING OWNERS MANUAL:banplease:

[yqtszhj]

Well…….the price went back down at Buds and I pulled the trigger on a new CW9! Can’t wait to get her in and start the prepping. I’ve been doing a fair amount of reading/research here but I’m sure I’ll have a few questions as I’ve never cleaned or even taken down a semi auto before.

Thanks to everyone here who chimed in, there’s lots of great info and helpful people here.

You're going to love that gun. No doubt.

Now, you have to start saving for your next one.:D

[yqtszhj]

FWIW; I sold my CW9 when the CM9 came out and I now regret selling it. I love my CM9 but IMO the CW9 just shoots better. More grip and barrel translate to slightly better acurracy and slightly less recoil. I found the CW9 carried IWB very easily also. The only advantage to the CM9 would be for pocket carry, which is why I bought it or maybe AIWB. Funny thing is, it almost always ends up IWB at 3-4 oclock or left hip crossdraw...old habits die hard.


+1 couldn't agree more

[tconroy]

aboard, the cw9 is just one super handgun, itg will serve u well. do me one thing besides doing the propper prep thing and lub e chart listed in the kahr tech section


READ THE FOKKING OWNERS MANUAL:banplease:
HA HA, LMAO !!!! Jocko, you kill me brutha !!! But your right READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! Dont try to sling shot the SOB either!!! Jocko, I got in 110 miles on the cruiser today before it got to F ing hot to ride! I just love days off. If i ever get up your way we are going to have to hook up and ride.:D

[tconroy]

+1 couldn't agree more
I have 2 pistols, CW9 and Ruger sp 101 357 mag. 3 1/16th". I do not need anything else. I will never get rid of either one of these!

[jocko]

HA HA, LMAO !!!! Jocko, you kill me brutha !!! But your right READ THE INSTRUCTIONS!!! Dont try to sling shot the SOB either!!! Jocko, I got in 110 miles on the cruiser today before it got to F ing hot to ride! I just love days off. If i ever get up your way we are going to have to hook up and ride.:D

bad, last saturday 4 of us took off and road down to sikeston, MO to LAMBERTS restaurant (Home of the throwed rolls) and ate and then headed back home Sunday morning. all total 700 miles round trip..

QUESTION: WOULD YOU DO THAT IN A FOKKING CAR???:banplease:

It is never TO HOT TO RIDE!!

[tconroy]

Were the hell are ya bro??? I didnt know you lived that close. Im in KC. I just dont like the sweat head or else I would ride no matter what. Ya ever been to Independence? Around 70 and 40 HWY??? Thats where I work.Its just me and the wife. Time to get together and PARTY!!!!! You can crash at my place. 4 story house with plenty of room!!:D

[espresso]

READ THE FOKKING OWNERS MANUAL:banplease:

No Problem...I'm one of those "manual reading" types :nerd:



I have 2 pistols, CW9 and Ruger sp 101 357 mag. 3 1/16th". I do not need anything else. I will never get rid of either one of these!

Feel the same about my Ruger GP 100 and hopefully my CW9.



Now, you have to start saving for your next one.:D

I learning there's never "the last one"

[rkirk]

espresso, I am sorry, but you have the fatal gun bug! Then there is holsters, belts, magazines, magazine holders and so on. Somewhere along the way you realize you need a safe! I won't torture you anymore.

Shoot safe,

-- Richard :D

[cw45fan]

... I pulled the trigger on a new CW9!

Cool... Just for kicks, here's what I did holster-wise... (2 pics).
Click:

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7115

[espresso]

I know I know....I just bought a ton of accessories for my GP100 like holster,speed loaders, front sight, grips. It's all part of the fun.

[RogerP9fan]

Welcome to the gun hobby. The saga continues.....

[espresso]

Ok guys and gals I picked her up today (CW9) and just had time to take her apart and look things over I'll try to start prepping tomorrow.

one thing....the guide rod is not coming out of the spring. There must be a sharp edge at the flange end and It's scraping the hell out of the guide rod when I try to force it out....do I just rip it out of there? The rod is already scratched up pretty good from where they put it on.

My first take down of a semi auto so excuse me if this is elementary to everyone here.:2rolleyes:

[TucsonMTB]

I wouldn't bother to remove the spring from the rod until you need to replace it. But, if you do take them apart, you can dress up the burr on the closed end that is gripping the rod. That's pretty much normal, or at least was with my CW40 and a couple of 1911's with full length guide rods.

The scratches can be polished out but are not a big deal functionally, in my experience.

[jocko]

some springs go onhard. It will loosen up with shooting, like tucson stated, leave it alone, do the prpep on your kahr, using the kahr lube chart sticky and do the propper prepping thing, then just shoot it likeu stole it. Nice gun, I just spray Remington dry lube on my guide rods. Oil is ok but its gonna run some where.

[espresso]

Thanks....I read the sticky on lube and preping and will do that tonight but will have to wait awhile to take her to the range. I'm leaving for Seattle for a mini vacation and will be on a quest for the perfect double shot.:2eek:

All looks good so far...the feed ramp came polished mirror shiny and the mag glides out on it's own when released. Can't wait to break her in when I get back.

[FTG2Voge]

I like my CW9. It shoots well and is a good carry gun for warm days when a 1911 is just a bit harder to conceal.

[espresso]

I finally got to break in my new CW9 today after getting back from a mini vacation -I shot a couple boxes of Federal 115 gr and a box of S&B 124 gr....great little gun! The gun did not lock back when empty on the first 2 mags but then locked back on every other empty mag after that. I did get 2 FTF but I think it was me not pushing the round all the way back when loading the mag or just needed to break in a little, either way I just racked and fired away.

After a few mags I started to get the hang of the trigger. Just pull back about 1/2 way then start the trigger squeeze just like my GP 100....only much smoother and easier. When I did my part it shot right where I pointed it. The gun fit my hand perfectly when I held it in stores and that translated into a easy first range session. I didn't have to fidget around trying to get my grip right ... just pick up, point and shoot. I think it's a very soft shooter for such a small gun I had no problems with with the so called "cheese grater" grips.

Thanks to all here and especially the stickies on prepping/ lube chart ect. that made things very easy.

[nmkahrshooter]

I have both and really can't tell the difference with recoil. CW9 great with IWB holster CM9 great for in pocket carry. Check cheaper than dirt to see if price is cheaper on web or at a local gunstore,always like to support local shop owners unless price is out of this world.

[Bob G]

I have both.. If I had to get rid of one it would be the CW9, but glad I don't..

[wayneo1]

Its great to read about a successful gun purchase. Many years of good luck with your pistol. I love the smell of gun powder from a new gun.

[espresso]

So far so good.....

I tried to get some range time this weekend but when I showed up they were in the middle of a CCW class and I didn't have time to wait for a lane. Still only shot it once and that just wasn't enough I'll have to try again this week.

Time to start trying some defense rounds to see what she likes, I bought some Hornady Critical Defense ammo and will try some next time out.