Looking for quality yet inexpensive ccw

[LCHAV]

Hello all. I am new to the site and in the market for a quality, trustworthy, yet inexpensive ccw. I was very interested in the cw40 but am having second thoughts after reading some posts claiming the weapon has issues. I had a S&W M&P 40 that I really liked but was too thick for me to cary. Money is fairly tight ( I have $500 - 550 to spend) and I'm wondering if the $400+ would be better spent on a used handgun with better history? I am fairly small person with smaller hands and the cw series fit great. Any help would be very appreciated and I apologize if this is posted in the wrong area.
Thanks

[O'Dell]

Welcome LCHAV. I have 13 pistols mostly SIG's, HK, S&W, An STI, and a Kimber. Other than an LCP my son gave me, my CW40 is the most inexpensive gun I own. It is also my favorite OWB carry. It has been problem free from the first day and I shoot it very well. I have also had four other Kahr's over the last three or four years, and have never had a problem with any of them. I also have a compact M&P 40 and It's a fine reliable gun, but I carry the Kahr, not the M&P. If I can't cover the CW40, I'll slip a PM9 or LCP in my pocket.

[Barth]

Hello all. I am new to the site and in the market for a quality, trustworthy, yet inexpensive ccw. I was very interested in the cw40 but am having second thoughts after reading some posts claiming the weapon has issues. I had a S&W M&P 40 that I really liked but was too thick for me to cary. Money is fairly tight ( I have $500 - 550 to spend) and I'm wondering if the $400+ would be better spent on a used handgun with better history? I am fairly small person with smaller hands and the cw series fit great. Any help would be very appreciated and I apologize if this is posted in the wrong area.
Thanks

If you're not in a hurry, taking your time cherry picking a used gun
can really stretch your dollar. And allow you to up grade. But there is risk involved. I only buy used from reputable gun shops.

[Fulton_722]

Just get a new CW9 (around $400). That pistol has experienced very few problems, and will last you a long time.

[jocko]

Hello all. I am new to the site and in the market for a quality, trustworthy, yet inexpensive ccw. I was very interested in the cw40 but am having second thoughts after reading some posts claiming the weapon has issues. I had a S&W M&P 40 that I really liked but was too thick for me to cary. Money is fairly tight ( I have $500 - 550 to spend) and I'm wondering if the $400+ would be better spent on a used handgun with better history? I am fairly small person with smaller hands and the cw series fit great. Any help would be very appreciated and I apologize if this is posted in the wrong area.
Thanks

the cm9 and you will never regret tha tpurchase. what a super gun, plenty of firepower and it willbe a joy to shoot also. The 40 cal kahrs tend to be hotter than most guns due to it light weight.

[Barth]

the cm9 and you will never regret tha tpurchase. what a super gun, plenty of firepower and it willbe a joy to shoot also. The 40 cal kahrs tend to be hotter than most guns due to it light weight.

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[TheTman]

Welcome to the forum LCHAV. If you read enough forums, ALL guns have issues, even Glocks. I've haven't noticed much more bad press about the CW40 on this site, than any of the other Kahrs, and if you do have issues, Kahr has first rate customer service. I had to send my CW45 back to have some work done on it, and it was back in my hands in exactly one week and has been flawless.
My first Kahr was a CW40, Once I learned to shoot correctly, it hasn't had a bit of trouble. I did do a little filing on part of it so it would eject live rounds of Winchester Ranger 155gr HP easier, (they have a pretty wide mouth which would get hung up on a flat part of the barrel that extends back from the barrel itself), everything else has run fine through it. I did have to learn to keep my wrist in line with my shooting hand so the gun would cycle properly and return to battery all the way. That was my first polymer framed gun, I guess they flex a little more than metal frames, and it showed a flaw in my shooting technique. Anyway, I was so pleased with the gun that I bought a CW45. If you look around you can get the CW40 for under $400.
Jet Guns has a CW9 for $352 right now, but no CW40's in stock. Bud's has the .40 for $406 today, and the CW9 for $399.
The CW40 does have a bit of recoil to it, because of it's light weight, but you get used to that pretty quick. I'm a pretty small and not that strong, but I enjoy shooting it.
I bought my CW40 from a local gun store, for around $450. I shopped around and got the CW45 for $352 with free shipping. The FFL added $20 for the transfer and it was mine for $376 after insurance and transfer.
The CM9 would be a fine gun if you're looking wanting something for pocket carry, and has had a very good reputation. It's $433 at Bud's today.
Good luck and hope you enjoy whatever you decide on.

[jocko]

agree with what THETMANSKI said, not that that means a damn thing but he is right on and being an owner of a CW40, u are hearing it from the horses mouth, where as I a lowly 9mm shooter can only pass on what he has read from owners.

Someday when I grow up I will own a 40 cal!!!!

[slowpoke]

Hello all. I am new to the site and in the market for a quality, trustworthy, yet inexpensive ccw. I was very interested in the cw40 but am having second thoughts after reading some posts claiming the weapon has issues. I had a S&W M&P 40 that I really liked but was too thick for me to cary. Money is fairly tight ( I have $500 - 550 to spend) and I'm wondering if the $400+ would be better spent on a used handgun with better history? I am fairly small person with smaller hands and the cw series fit great. Any help would be very appreciated and I apologize if this is posted in the wrong area.
Thanks
The CW40 has no issues other than people buying them, and cleaning them, and then taking them out to shoot DRY.
You need to do the pre-lube.

http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=71&pictureid=465

I have a CW40 and a CM9 and they both have been perfect guns.

[yqtszhj]

Welcome. I can personally testify that the CW9 and CM9 are both very good handguns and both less than 500 dollars.

[LCHAV]

Well, thank you all for helping me to make a most informed decision. I will be picking up the cw40 this week. Cant wait to hit the range. :)

[LaP]

Being somewhat of a new member to this forum also, I am curious about the issues with the CW40. Are these ongoing problems or just individual concerns?
I just purchased a CW9 a few weeks ago and have nothing but praise for it.

[O'Dell]

Being somewhat of a new member to this forum also, I am curious about the issues with the CW40. Are these ongoing problems or just individual concerns?
I just purchased a CW9 a few weeks ago and have nothing but praise for it.

As far as I know there are no issues - certainly not with mine.

This is 36 rounds from 35 feet.

[LaP]

O'Dell:
That grouping certainly looks fine to me. I'm still getting used to the trigger (at least that's what I'm blaming for my sub-standard shooting)

So far, 450 rounds downrange with absolutely NO problems.:D

[TheTman]

Could someone tell me where they are reading about all these CW40 issues? Is it on another brands forum? Could it be "plants" to get you to buy their brand of gun?, I would think this would be the place to see complaints and people looking for help with their CW40, and I haven't seen any more complaints about it than any of the other models.

[jocko]

goodpoint manski. lots of gun trollsprowl allaround these forums,only to stir sh-t.

[TheTman]

Never mind, I googled CW40 problems and found some of the posts. I bet most of them didn't read the owners manual. There was many a report where they put the take down pin in wrong, Over the spring and not under it. I will admit that IS kind of a problem area, and people trying to slingshot a round into the chamber and bitching cause that didnt work on their brand new Kahr. A lot of the posts were a couple years old. I saw a post proclaiming all the CW series was junk because they used MIM parts. Whatever. One guy said he tried for 3 days to contact Kahr with no answer? I find that hard to believe. I believe if most these folks would have posted here we could have helped them.

[jocko]

I think my above statement kinda covers what u just found out. Sure some kahrs give issues, Definitely some people with kahrs give even more issues. Kahr can fix their bad guns, they can't fix the owner. No doubt some if not maybe alot of kahr issues are shooter induced. Most never read an owners manual, let alone maybe egulf what they actualy were trying to tell u either. Is this Kahrs fault???

That little springhy area "can" be a touchy area, but i would venture to guess kahr has arond a half million of those guns all total floating around with that little springhy and they just dont really give an issue if one follows their owners manual. Certanloy is not rocket science to install a new one either.

[TheTman]

Oh, I about fell over, I ventured into Glock Talk, read a post about a guy who took his CW40 back without ever firing it, cause unfired rounds hung up when he tried to eject them. The dealer ran a couple mags of unfired ammo thru it just fine, and told the guy the gun was running perfect, but the guy still returned the gun. The Glock Talk folks actually seemed to be on the Kahrs side and more or less told the guy should have at least shot it a little and not returned it cause he didn't know how to eject a live round, and that it was probably just buyers remorse working on him.
I had this same problem with Winchester Rangers and a little filing did wonders.

[wdg]

Personally my CW9 is my carry and I don't reget it. A nice reliable firearm in 9mm ammo / which is cheaper therefore more likely to be shot more IMO.

[teammazza]

I've carried more guns then I care to list and I keep going back to my CW9. I carry OWB (hate IWB) and I like having my pinky on the grip, helps my accuracy. IMO the CW9 is the perfect size, weight, calibur, and price for CCW. I've shot it like I stole it and never any problems. If Kahr ever comes out with a CM45 then I will give it a look. But until then I love my CW9.

[hdsteve69]

I have a cw40 and a k40 both have been flawless shooters from day one. The only problem I have had with the cw40 was by my own fault when putting the slide stop back in and bending the slide stop spring causing slide to lock open after every round ,the great guys on this forum helped with that problem ,just bent it back and have had no trouble . As for the k40 which is out of the price range you are looking at I took that gun out of the box and bag it was in loaded it up and shot 50rnds wit no issues. I think my next gun is gonna be a k9 ss.