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[thumbs]

I just picked up my cm9 today. Its still in the plastic in the box. Well I did check it out before I bought it but you get the idea.
Since this is my first Kahr. Any words of wisdom? Anything I should do before I try er out? I'll field strip and clean but anything else?

I do have a couple of questions for ya though. May sound dumb but ..... How do you load the cm9 to full capacity? Is there do's and don'ts? Do you strip a round from the mag into the chamber then reload the mag? I was told not to drop a round in the chamber then insert the mag.

Also what weight bullets seem to run best in the CM?

Almost forgot. What magazines work in the cm9? Are they just for the cm or are they the same mags as the pm9?

thanks for the help

[jocko]

welcomme. we can help u alot to enjoy the best kahr made. GO TO

kahr tech section.

Hit on two great stickys;

#1 kAHR LUBE CHART

#2 PROPPER PREPPING OF UR NEW KAHR

Thse two will make ur first trip a fun one.

kahrs wilolshoot anything u put in the pipe. practice with 115 fmj ammo. WWB from walmartis low in price and is great ammo.

defense stuff, many love the 124 grain gold dots. u can't go wrong with gold dots, but there are lots of good defense rounds out there3.

Please do look up the above two sticky's.

[les strat]

Hi, and welcome to the forum!
You really need to read the manual as Kahr's are a little different with putting a round in the chamber. You lock the slide back, insert mag, pull down on slide lock which chambers a round up. Then drop your mag and top it off with one more. I wouldn't "slingshot a round in the chamber like with most semi-autos at least for the first 200 rounds.
You really need to field strip and clean the shipping oil before using. Then moderatley lube it accordning to forum member jocko's lube chart.
I recommend racking it at least 500 times or more to loosen it up and maybe lock the slide back and leave it over night. Kahr recommends running 200 through the gun before considering it ok to carry. I'd use different ammo during this time to see what it likes, especially your round you will be carring for SD. DOn't skip this for sure. You might get a few failures to feed or failures for the slide to lock back on the last round, but they slick up after about 50 rounds and should get better as you go.
Read the manual, and congrats on the fine weapon.

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Thanks I'll do just that.

One last thing. Where in the heck do you get magazines for this thing?

I plan to read it now. Like I said haven't really had time to do anything but thought I would get this out while reading the manual. I figure the manual would give me the basics and you guys would set me straight on the real world operation.

thanks guys I'll hit the books now

[jocko]

buy kahr magazines, leave the other brands alone, If I can make a suggestion to, stick with the 6 round flush fit kahr mags for ur cm9. U bought a ccw gun, so treat it like one. Some who have the 7 round extended magazines have issues in these small cm9 and PM9 models. Stick with the 6 round mags. Kahr webb site has them available, but if you look around you can beat kahrs price by a 1/3rd.

nice gunt he cm9, we have had no issues with this new gun and it is a real shooter, just go slow with everything u do, READ THOSE TWO THREADS. trust me, u will thank us all for that....

don't be afraid to ask questions on this forum, we are here to help not criticse, You don't have enough time to make all the mistakes that this forum has owned up to, so learn by OUR MISTAKES and just shoot that little gun like u stole it.

READ THOSE TWO STICKY'S

[Papa13]

Welcome to the forum and Kahr. Looks like all your questions have been answered. You will not be disappointed with your CM9, just bought my first Kahr, a CM9, about 45 days ago, have run over 250 rounds thru it and have not had any problems, have run 115 gr and 124 gr thru it, factory and reloads and not one problem. Just recently added a front night sight to it, which you can get from Kahr when you are ready. Happy Shooting!!

[JFootin]

Here's your best deal on mags:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2MGKAMK620-1.html

[8th ID]

Congrats! Nice choice. I'm new here too and have found some GREAT info on the suggested stickies. I just finished 200 rounds through my CM9 yesterday. ZERO problems. You're going to love that pistol. Happy Shooting! Be Safe.

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Thanks again guys. I read the stickys and that is exactly what I am lookin for thanks. Since it's Saturday night don't think I will be able to get napa break cleaner but I just may have some in the shop. I'll have to check.

Where do you guys get the tw25 stuff?

Have you guys used Ballistol? Just askin I have that. LOL

I don't think those mags are Kahr's factory mags. I read the review and there seems to be some question. I don't think they are stamped Kahr.

[JFootin]

Yes they are. I just bought two of them.

[wayneo1]

I noticed some decent prices at Buds Guns. Good luck with your new pistol, let us know how you do at the range.

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Ok good thanks.

[bonjorno2]

Welcome to the site, listen to these guys they know what they are talking about!

[TheTman]

Welcome to the forums thumbs, I hope you enjoy your CM9. It's getting a pretty good reputation around here as a good shooting reliable little pocket pistol. I'm kind of eyeing one myself, but also waiting to see if they bring out a CM40 or 45. I imagine with that little gun, the bigger calibers would really benefit from magna-porting it. I imagine the CM9 would benefit from it too, especially if you go with +P ammo, which I would probably do for my SD ammo. I believe Jocko has it's more expensive twin PM9 magna-ported and likes it a bunch. I know my CW40 and 45 are a handful with a full length grip to hang on too. Nothing too troublesome, but I wouldn't mind taming it down a little. The CM9 would be ok, I just don't want another caliber to buy ammo for. I have a 9mm, but rarely shoot it anymore. I guess I believe in that saying about don't bring a gun with a caliber which doesn't start in 4 to a gunfight. Nothing wrong with the 9 though, it packs plenty of punch, especially when you go with +P ammo.

[yqtszhj]

Welcome. clean it up real good and then go and enjoy that CM9. It's a good one. I love mine. If there are any questions the good folks here will be glad to assist.

[JimC]

I don't think those mags are Kahr's factory mags. I read the review and there seems to be some question. I don't think they are stamped Kahr.

The mags from CTD are stamped 9-6 over Kahr the same as the 6 rd. mag that came with my PM9. They come in Kahr packaging.
I bought 3 mags from CTD and two of the three split down the back seams during my first range session with a NIB pistol. :mad:
I wrote the negative review that you read. I'm surprised they actually posted it on their site. ;)
The two split mags are currently at Kahr for evaluation along with my PM9. If Kahr has any issues with the mags being from CTD and not directly from them, I will certainly post their findings.

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Thanks again guys. Its kinda a tough day here. I really want to get out and try this thing out.. I am taking the advise and going to wait until I can get to napa and clean it out with break cleaner before I take it to the range. I want to make sure I do my part to take care of this thing. Anyway it's a good time to get caught up on some honey doos.

[thumbs]

I was reading the sticky about preparing the Kahr for the first time out. It mentions getting (3M high pressure NON-CHLORINATED brake cleaner). I have been looking on line including the napa sight and can't find it.

One place said it may have been discontinued the product. I will try napa tomorrow but is there an alternative that won't damage the poly and still clean the pistol up?

thanks for the help

Gary

[jocko]

It's still at my Napa store. Many also buy the CRC non cholorinated spray and it works just as good. The 3M is not a must onlyt spray cleaner. I found it to be the most pwoerful of all pressures sprays I have used and that wasnot many different brands either, so to answer your qeustion, #M is still available at NAPA but I think alsl so is CRC non cholorinatedspray to. both close in price. Pretty sure Wal mart sells teh CRC brand, My auto zone sells it also.

[thumbs]

Ok thanks. I'll check at napa in the morning. I was just concerned about the poly. Is that why you specified non chlorinated? I have a can of brake cleaner but its not non chlorinated.

[94zcar]

The CM9 is a great gun Thumbs....I have over 600 rounds though mine with no malfunctions at all. I have even done some single handed and weak handed shooting limp wristing it...still no failures.

I have some of that Balistal but I do not like it, it has a real bad smell to it, but some folks really like it. I rarely use it.
Good ole hoppes number 9 works for me 90% of the time, and It does not smell so bad.

[Rainman48314]

I just picked up my cm9 today. Its still in the plastic in the box. Well I did check it out before I bought it but you get the idea.
Since this is my first Kahr. Any words of wisdom? Anything I should do before I try er out? I'll field strip and clean but anything else?

I do have a couple of questions for ya though. May sound dumb but ..... How do you load the cm9 to full capacity? Is there do's and don'ts? Do you strip a round from the mag into the chamber then reload the mag? I was told not to drop a round in the chamber then insert the mag.

Also what weight bullets seem to run best in the CM?

Almost forgot. What magazines work in the cm9? Are they just for the cm or are they the same mags as the pm9?

thanks for the helpWith most guns, you MUST strip a round off the mag, then refill the mag to capacity.

[Rainman48314]

I was reading the sticky about preparing the Kahr for the first time out. It mentions getting (3M high pressure NON-CHLORINATED brake cleaner). I have been looking on line including the napa sight and can't find it.

One place said it may have been discontinued the product. I will try napa tomorrow but is there an alternative that won't damage the poly and still clean the pistol up?

thanks for the help

GaryPlenty of products, but higher costs. I use GunScrubber by Birchwood Casey, 13 oz. can was about $12 going from a bad memory. I use it on alloy, ss, polymer, plastic etc.

[wyntrout]

Don't drop a round in the chamber and then release the slide. It's hell on the extractor and can break it. The extractors are designed to grab the cartridge rim as the case slides up the breech face.
Start with the slide locked back, then insert the magazine, release the slide and chamber a round, then drop the mag and add a round. Make sure the rounds in the magazine are all the way to the rear. The 9mm's really can creep forward and sometimes take a dive instead of up the ramp.

Good luck and good shooting!

Wynn:)

[jocko]

The CM9 is a great gun Thumbs....I have over 600 rounds though mine with no malfunctions at all. I have even done some single handed and weak handed shooting limp wristing it...still no failures.

I have some of that Balistal but I do not like it, it has a real bad smell to it, but some folks really like it. I rarely use it.
Good ole hoppes number 9 works for me 90% of the time, and It does not smell so bad.

well know there are as many gun "cleaning" products out as there are guns, so I anhd others here when we recommend a product, u can trust that it is an ok product but it is not gospel that this product is the only one that will do what one says either. So if your comfortable with what u using, then indeed stick with it. It is not rocket science cleaning these guns, They ain't precision watchs etc, Take what members here say wityh a grain of salt and compare it with what u do and more than likely we are all traveling down the same path..

Some might use Hoppe's, some CRC, some Birchwood, Some 3M but the end result for allis one clean gun, that is what were all after..

[steve666]

http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/signs/smiley-vault-signs-082.gif (http://www.smileyvault.com/) I think you will like both... Kahr makes a great gun and the folks on here are pretty good also.http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons/emoticon-misc-028.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons.php)

[OldLincoln]

Several brands of the spray cleaner have pretty much the same contents. After trying a couple I ended up getting the Walmart brake cleaner. As long as it is Non-Chlorinated you are okay.

The chlorinated is a thing from the past and I haven't even seen any, but from what I've read, it will mess up your poly frame. Just be sure to wear eye protection and do it outside away from pets. It would not be good to have your adoring puppy looking up at you when you spray this stuff.

[thumbs]

Yep napa has the 3m stuff for about 4.50.
I cleaned and lubes the cm up and took it out to give er a run. Well to say the least not so good at all. I think I know what the problem is. Pretty sure it's the ammo. I shot 20 rounds and had 18 failures. Not concerned yet. I had to shoot my reloads. I didn't have any factory stuff. I think th oal is to long. They work fine in the Glock but not the Kahr. Any way I got some factory stuff on the way back. They measured 1.50. Mine ar e 1.70. I reseated the reloads and racked them throough the cm and they ran fine. I'll take the factory stuff tomorrow and shoot it first. Then I'll try the reloads.

The cm felt good in the hand and was just fine to control. I didn't shoot for accuracy since I had the problem. I was just trying to get it to shoot. I really think tomorrow will be just fine.

[Quickdraw]

My new CM will be here in 2 days. After all of the good info here I'll have it cleaned lubed and ready to go real quick. I'll take out several different loads and some hand loads to give it a good shakedown. I fully expect it to run perfect to near perfect.

[jocko]

Yep napa has the 3m stuff for about 4.50.
I cleaned and lubes the cm up and took it out to give er a run. Well to say the least not so good at all. I think I know what the problem is. Pretty sure it's the ammo. I shot 20 rounds and had 18 failures. Not concerned yet. I had to shoot my reloads. I didn't have any factory stuff. I think th oal is to long. They work fine in the Glock but not the Kahr. Any way I got some factory stuff on the way back. They measured 1.50. Mine ar e 1.70. I reseated the reloads and racked them throough the cm and they ran fine. I'll take the factory stuff tomorrow and shoot it first. Then I'll try the reloads.

The cm felt good in the hand and was just fine to control. I didn't shoot for accuracy since I had the problem. I was just trying to get it to shoot. I really think tomorrow will be just fine.

as u well know is not indicative of whether a gun is going to work. Best advice I can give you is break it in with new fmj ammo get it running perfect, then experiment with your reloads. right now u don;'t know whether it is the reloads or the gun, but 18 out of 20 tells me it is the ammo..

[thumbs]

Yeah think it will also. I think mine will run well tomorrow. My guess is since the pistol is so small it will be more picky to longer ammo. I racked a mag of the 1.50 through it and it was fine.

I think it will be a fun gun to shoot.

[thumbs]

Oh I think your right. I appreciate you responding though.. I'll let you know next time out. I'm really not concerned. I think the length of the ammo in a small piltol is very critical. I'll try the factory tomorrow.

[franco45]

A belated welcome Thumbs. Watch out, these Kahrs seem to multiply. I started with a CW9, then a CW45 and recently a CM9. All have been great pistols.

[Jitterbug]

At 1.50" I'll bet you had some problems...just kidding, I'm sure you meant 1.150" can't be to careful with details when it comes to reloading right?

On a more serious note, be careful with your reloading, the trip to the chamber is a bit of a rough ride with the short slide and the high pressure 9mm can be unforgiving with a setback, a buddy has blown up two PM9's.

He's an experienced reloader and claims one was a factory load...I also know he get's a bit absentminded at times (old age) so I take his claims with a grain of salt.

With a 124 Winchester FMJ, I'm getting good results at 1.150" and I'm real careful with my brass to ensure good neck tension.

[yqtszhj]

Blew up 2 pm9? Thats $1200 worth of hurt.

[jocko]

A belated welcome Thumbs. Watch out, these Kahrs seem to multiply. I started with a CW9, then a CW45 and recently a CM9. All have been great pistols.

condoms will prevent the spread:p

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Did he ever figure out what the problem was???