Range report on brand new pm9

[goforbroke]

I finally got the opportunity to shoot my PM9 I picked up two weeks ago.
I took it home and broke it down and cleaned it completely then reapplied some slide glide. Got to the range and it was dead only 1 person in the 10 lane range, which made sense because it felt like it was 100 degrees in there. After an hour I was completely soaked through my shirt, unfortunately they don’t have AC, no biggie though.Ended up putting a little over 200 rounds through the gun. Put 150 rounds of federal and 50+ rounds of Winchester white box through it. Didn’t bring any self defense ammo with me because I wanted to make sure it would cycle target ammo first.
Well I had 3 failure to feed during the whole session and they happened around the 50, 100, and 150 round mark.

I understand these little guys have growing pains when they are new but I’m wondering if the heat had something to do with it possibly? These rounds were all fired in a row with no real break in between. The side release was so hot I had to move my thumb over from resting on it. I didn’t have a problem racking the slide back, but I let my sister try it when I got home and she couldn’t do it. I’m guessing these run extremely tight when new and will loosen up in due time?

On a positive note this gun is dead nuts accurate. Initially I thought it was going to be have a lot of recoil given its meager 14 oz weight and all of the other 9mm I own weigh twice that much, but it soaks it up very well.

[LaP]

TWO WEEKS before you got to shoot your new pistol!!!? You've got more patience than I would have.:D
Glad to hear about the accuracy being so good. I'm somewhat new to Kahrs guns and also this forum, so, I won't comment on the break-in period that many people discuss here.
Have fun with the gun and welcome to the forum.

[goforbroke]

Yeah it was killing me inside but my schedule is crazy. I had a holster for the gun before I even shot it.;)

[wyntrout]

Two weeks isn't that long! :rolleyes: I ordered(and paid in full) a P380 with night sights when they had just started selling the P380. I quickly ordered a MiniTuck for it and extra magazines... and ran down 200 rounds of ammo at the height of the .380 "shortage"... found it passing through Tennessee coming back from visiting the kids in Ill-Annoy... Outpost Armory(with huge, tall highway signs!)... 4x50 rounds of Aguila FMJ for just under $100! I wanted to be ready to break the gun in.
After 11... ELEVEN... MONTHS... the gun came in on March 31st and went back, unfired, the next day to Kahr to replace the DEAD front night sight! I was really disappointed, but I had a LNIB PM9(from January) and then a brand new PM45 DLC with NS to console me. The PM45 went back 4 times and the P380 was piggy-backed with the PM45 on its third trip back.

on a positive note, I did get the P380 for the original price and saved the $62 or so increase from my online dealer.

Thankfully, they all are fine now and very accurate and reliable.

Congrats on getting to shoot it and not having any major malfunctions. Everyone would advise you against even touching the slide lock, let alone resting your thumb on it! I overlap my left thumb to hold my right thumb down, though I don't really have a problem with getting near the slide lock release.

Most people here think that I have a lot of patience with all of the returns to Kahr, but I'm VERY IMPATIENT! I want my stuff NOW!!

Wynn:D

[jocko]

wyn, u certainly paid ur dues on the kahrs and their picky issues. I love my P380 but I am not sold on it yet. seems like yet today to many are going back for one thing or another, then they seem to come back OK, SO WHY NOT DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME??


Give me my PM9 any day of the week, damn thing just goes bang ever time....

[wyntrout]

Danged if I know, but I usually have mine on(like now) or close at hand when I'm around the house. I have been purposefully carrying the PM45 and even the PM9 once in a while, though, when I leave the house... shopping and such. I like the confidence I feel with "Boomer"... or "Franken-Boomer".

Wynn:D

[goforbroke]

Yeah I realize these guns can be finicky when new. I was a little bothered considering the price of the gun and it should perform flawlessly out of the box, but maybe I'm asking for too much from Kahr.

Don't you guys get pissed having to send your gun(s) back to the factory multiple times? I not sure I have that much faith. Hopefully my little problem goes away with a couple hundred more rounds down the pipe.

[jocko]

the kahr P380 is finiky, none of their own line of guns is.

[goforbroke]

I'll take your word for it considering you have 32K down your PM9, damn that's A LOT of ammo.
Keep trying to tell myself thousands of these guys are sold and majority of them run flawless, while a couple bad batches come out and spread the word they are problem guns.

[jocko]

not bragging, just a fact, kahrs when right , which most all are, will run like a fine tuned engine. Mine looks as new as the day I bought it, one would not believe the rounds out of it,. If it broke tomorrow, I would just fix it and then continue to shoot it like I stole it.. I don't think to many people peddle their cars if they break down, so why hold guns to that. Most cars down break down, Most guns down break down, those that do, well just live with it.

[LaP]

Keep trying to tell myself thousands of these guys are sold and majority of them run flawless, while a couple bad batches come out and spread the word they are problem guns.

This was my experience. So far I've put about 450 rounds thru my CW9 without a single problem. Will that continue? Who knows? But meanwhile, I'll extol the virtues of my Kahr.:D

[Bill K]

Hi,

Maybe put another 50-100 rounds of ball through your gun and if it is without issues prove your SD/Carry ammo?

[goforbroke]

Yeah I'm going to put another couple hundred rounds the gun and see what happens. Have any of you guys polished the feed ramp? I'm honestly not sure I can get it any better then the factory though, might be a lost cause.

A thought jumped into my head after reading about the magazine issues with the PM9 and the rounds get along the feed ramp. I'm wondering if it's a magazine issue? Of course I didn't pay attention to which magazine was in the gun with I experienced the FTF.

[jocko]

Yeah I'm going to put another couple hundred rounds the gun and see what happens. Have any of you guys polished the feed ramp? I'm honestly not sure I can get it any better then the factory though, might be a lost cause.

in 150+ first trime range session could be just the gun getting right, could also be the shooter and the gun mating up to, not saying it is but when a shooter gets tired, things happen. I really don't see any thing wrong with the PM9 but that is just me. If in doubt let another good shooter try it. Normally if a gun has patrs/mfg issues it will duplicate itsself many times. 3 times to me isnot indicative of that . Check your magazines prep them, make sure the follower is not being restricted by the mag catch.

all of this is described in the PROPPER PREPPING OF YOUR NEW KAHR. Could just be a minor thing. Again normaly if the follower is being caught by the mag release, it willhappen alot at around 2/3 very easy to check out, easier to solve to.

take your time, I really think ur close to being good to go. Kahrs feed ramps are super, but IMJO u can also do aa little better job on it and inside the chamber. Ur not gonna hurt anything.

[goforbroke]

in 150+ first trime range session could be just the gun getting right, could also be the shooter and the gun mating up to, not saying it is but when a shooter gets tired, things happen. I really don't see any thing wrong with the PM9 but that is just me. If in doubt let another good shooter try it. Normally if a gun has patrs/mfg issues it will duplicate itsself many times. 3 times to me isnot indicative of that . Check your magazines prep them, make sure the follower is not being restricted by the mag catch.

all of this is described in the PROPPER PREPPING OF YOUR NEW KAHR. Could just be a minor thing. Again normaly if the follower is being caught by the mag release, it willhappen alot at around 2/3 very easy to check out, easier to solve to.

take your time, I really think ur close to being good to go. Kahrs feed ramps are super, but IMJO u can also do aa little better job on it and inside the chamber. Ur not gonna hurt anything.

What have you done to your PM9? What have you modified that it runs so reliable?

[goforbroke]

Well I took my PM9 back to the range this weekend and put another 150 rounds through it without any problems. Fifty of the rounds I shot through it were Winchester self defense ammo. The gun ran flawlessly this time around. Did I mention this gun is dead nuts accurate. :rolleyes:

[TucsonMTB]

Did I mention this gun is dead nuts accurate. :rolleyes:
Congratulations . . . but, it's probably more accurate to say that you shoot your Kahr with "dead nuts accurate" results. Your technique and practice is a big part of your success.

Some shooters seem to lose sight of that part of the equation, especially when their gun "isn't working perfectly." :D

[goforbroke]

Congratulations . . . but, it's probably more accurate to say that you shoot your Kahr with "dead nuts accurate" results. Your technique and practice is a big part of your success.

Some shooters seem to lose sight of that part of the equation, especially when their gun "isn't working perfectly." :D

I guess I'am a big part of the equation.;) I was just a little surprised by the accuracy of the gun given it's size. Then again the youtube videos of Hicko45 shooting the gun at a 80-100 yard targets should of been belief enough. Kinda figured it would be a little difficult to shoot since your pinky finger hangs off, but it doesn't really make a difference.

[jocko]

I can shoot at 80-100 yards, not a big deal


Now hitting anything at 80-100 yards is certainly a big deal. I never could put both things together at the same time--humm~!!

[TucsonMTB]

You crack me up, Jocko! Thanks for the laugh! :D

[goforbroke]

I can shoot at 80-100 yards, not a big deal

Now hitting anything at 80-100 yards is certainly a big deal. I never could put both things together at the same time--humm~!!

HAHAHAHA Funniest thing I heard all day.

Thats sig material.