Obama in trouble with Supreme Court

[TheTman]

Kind of long, but worth it, don't know how much is true if any, but I hope at least some of it's true.
Tom
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This will be an interesting turn of events if it does come to the surface.....bring it on!!
Our New Dictator May Be In Deep Trouble With Chief Justice John Roberts, U.S. Supreme Court.

According to sources who watch the inner workings of the federal government, a smack-down of Barack Obama by the U.S. Supreme Court may be inevitable.

Ever since Obama assumed the office of President, critics have hammered him on a number of Constitutional issues. Critics have complained that much, if not all of Obama's major initiatives, run headlong into Constitutional roadblocks on the power of the federal government. Obama certainly did not help himself in the eyes of the Court when he used the venue of the State of the Union address early in the year to publicly flog the Court over its ruling that the First Amendment grants the right to various organizations to run political ads during the time of an election. The tongue-lashing clearly did not sit well with the Court, as demonstrated by Justice Sam Alito, who publicly shook his head and stated under his breath, 'That's not true,' when Obama told a flat-out lie concerning the Court's ruling. As it has turned out, this was a watershed moment in the relationship between the executive and the judicial branches of the federal government.

Obama publicly declared war on the court, even as he blatantly continued to propose legislation that flies in the face of every known Constitutional principle upon which this nation has stood for over 200 years.

Obama has even identified Chief Justice John Roberts as his number one enemy, that is, apart from Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and so on. And it is no accident that the one swing-vote on the court, Justice Anthony Kennedy, stated recently that he has no intention of retiring until 'Obama is gone.' Apparently, the Court has had enough. The Roberts Court has signaled, in a very subtle manner, of course, that it intends to address the issues about which Obama critics have been screaming to high heaven. A ruling against Obama on any one of these important issues could potentially cripple the Administration. Such a thing would be long overdue.

First, there is ObamaCare, which violates the Constitutional principle barring the federal government from forcing citizens to purchase something. And no, this is not the same thing as states requiring drivers to purchase car insurance, as some of the
intellectually-impaired claim. The Constitution limits FEDERAL government, not state governments, from such things, and further, not everyone has to drive, and thus, a citizen could opt not to purchase car insurance by simply deciding not to drive a vehicle. In the ObamaCare world, however, no citizen can 'opt out.'

Second, sources state that the Roberts court has quietly accepted information concerning discrepancies in Obama's history that raise serious questions about his eligibility for the office of President. The charge goes far beyond the birth certificate issue. This information involves possible fraudulent use of a Social Security number in Connecticut , while Obama was a high school student in Hawaii .

And that is only the tip of the iceberg.
Third, several cases involving possible criminal activity, conflicts of interest, and pay-for-play cronyism could potentially land many Administration officials, if not Obama himself, in hot water with the Court. Frankly, in the years this writer has observed politics, nothing comes close to comparing with the rampant corruption of this Administration, not even during the Nixon years. Nixon and the Watergate conspirators look like choirboys compared to the jokers that populate this Administration.
In addition, the Court will eventually be forced to rule on the dreadful decision of the Obama DOJ suing the state of Arizona . That, too, could send the Obama doctrine of open borders to an early grave, given that the Administration refuses to enforce federal law on illegal aliens.
And finally, the biggie that could potentially send the entire house of cards tumbling in a free-fall is the latest revelation concerning the Obama-Holder Department of Justice and its refusal to pursue the New Black Panther Party. The group was caught on tape committing felonies by attempting to intimidate Caucasian voters into staying away from the polls. A whistle-blower who resigned from the DOJ is now charging Holder with the deliberate refusal to pursue cases against Blacks, particularly those who are involved in radical hate-groups, such as the New Black Panthers, who have been caught on tape calling for the murder of white people and their babies. This one is a biggie that could send the entire Administration crumbling -- that is, if the Justices have the guts to draw a line in the sand at the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

[slowpoke]

Good read.
I think the only hope is for the U.S. Supreme Court to do something to stop this tyrant.
Or maybe "all" states secede from the union and form a new representation of some sort and tell the feds to piss up a rope.

[Chief Joseph]

The worst thing in all of this are the 50 percent of this country that votes for these guys and has turned their back on the Constitution merely for a handout or to line their pockets.

[slowpoke]

Thats why I say we should fire the fed. Form a new federal representation.
All states could secede from the union and have the Governor of each state take over the job of congress. think of the money we would save.
Keep the Supreme Court and fire the rest.

[slowpoke]

They've gone too far. They need to be tared an feathered.
They spend my hard earned tax money for some senator to send there whores on “business trips” flying first class all over the world and then have the nerve to call my social security and entitlement.
Haven’t these morons ever heard of video conferencing? We would save billions if we clipped there wings and made them use video conferencing.
We have way too much federal government, and it has way too much control.
Secede from the union!
And form a new representation, that’s the solution.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QakVlC3X_s

[slowpoke]

What kinda (censored) is this?
Get me all ticked off an everybody goes to bed?

[jocko]

I see "again A" the bill to allow carry in any state that allows ccw, if u have ccw from your state is now before our congress again.. cross ur fingers,course I have no clue as to what the "chosen one will do if it gets to his desk"

[TheTman]

I'd bet a dollar to a donut he'll veto it. I hope I'm wrong.

[MW surveyor]

What kinda (censored) is this?
Get me all ticked off an everybody goes to bed?


Some of us have to get up early in the morning :smash:

[WMD]

That was a good read. I hope it is true!

Just a couple of comments....

Jocko, I pray the carry bill passes. This permit BS in each state is getting very old!

Slowpoke, the system of government we use is the best in the world. It is not the system we need to replace, it is the people in it. In addition to the guy at the top (and his czars), the "lifetime" politicians need to go.

Just my 2 cents.... :)

[slowpoke]

Some of us have to get up early in the morning :smash:
Yep, I remember them days. :D

[slowpoke]

That was a good read. I hope it is true!

Just a couple of comments....

Jocko, I pray the carry bill passes. This permit BS in each state is getting very old!

Slowpoke, the system of government we use is the best in the world. It is not the system we need to replace, it is the people in it. In addition to the guy at the top (and his czars), the "lifetime" politicians need to go.

Just my 2 cents.... :)
Best Gov - yes
Best country - yes
Can it be better - yes
As for the system, it's broke and needs to be repaired or replaced.
Gettin rid of some of the cockroaches won't work, gota get rid of 'em all.

[TheTman]

It's not only the career politicians but also the type of people they keep electing, like fruitcakes Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Barney Frank, et al. I have a friend that is a libtard, I don't see him much anymore, but it's like he's from a different world. He's a lot like my wife living in her world of unicorns and fairies. And his wife is even worse. I can't even talk to that woman about anything political. I have a hard enough time not knocking some sense into my libtard friends head sometime, I've known this guy for over 20 years, worked with him for 5 or 6 of those, but I sure don't understand his way of thinking. He thinks Obama is doing an ok job "considering what Bush left him with" BULL$HIT. The Dems were in control of congress and made this mess. He made the comment to me back in 03 or so that if Gore would been elected Bin Laden would been found already, jeez what a maroon. Then he gripes about the wars. I suppose we should just sit on our ass and let the jihad fly planes into buildings and do nothing. I will admit though, no one has ever conquered Afhganistan and I don't have a lot of hope as long as Pakistan lets the rats scurry back and forth across the border. Pakistan is going to fall into radical hands one of these days, and they have nukes, I hope we have a plan together to take over their nukes when that happens. They're already two faced snakes that can't be trusted. I often wonder if the Russians are sittin back laughing at us trying to control Afghanistan, after we provided all those weapons to the Taliban. I read a news article that was showing how a lot of money we give to Afhgan firms ends up in Taliban hands, millions of dollars. I can find it and put a link here if anyone wants to read it. It will totally disgust you.

[bigmacque]

I honestly am beginning to believe that this 'debt crisis' is ongoing because Obama sees it as an opportunity to further his socialist agenda. By allowing the US debt rating to fall and to perhaps default on our debt, he opens the door for our creditors to start forcing actions that he cannot force due to the constraints -- the entirely appropriate restraints -- that the Constitution wraps around the three branches of government.

It would be best of Congress would wake up to this, and unilaterally vote to impeach him -- I'll accept Joe Biden for a time -- and let Congress get through this current issue and the voters get to the polls next year and put an end to this.

Just MHO.

[TheTman]

I think everything he does is done to bring this country to it's knees. He is out to destroy our way of life. He wants a socialist government with him as dictator. If you get a chance read "The Roots of Obama's Rage" by D'Souza. It's a foreigners view on another foriegner who happened to get elected President.

[slowpoke]

It's not only the career politicians but also the type of people they keep electing, like fruitcakes Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Barney Frank, et al. I have a friend that is a libtard, I don't see him much anymore, but it's like he's from a different world. He's a lot like my wife living in her world of unicorns and fairies. And his wife is even worse. I can't even talk to that woman about anything political. I have a hard enough time not knocking some sense into my libtard friends head sometime, I've known this guy for over 20 years, worked with him for 5 or 6 of those, but I sure don't understand his way of thinking. He thinks Obama is doing an ok job "considering what Bush left him with" BULL$HIT. The Dems were in control of congress and made this mess. He made the comment to me back in 03 or so that if Gore would been elected Bin Laden would been found already, jeez what a maroon. Then he gripes about the wars. I suppose we should just sit on our ass and let the jihad fly planes into buildings and do nothing. I will admit though, no one has ever conquered Afhganistan and I don't have a lot of hope as long as Pakistan lets the rats scurry back and forth across the border. Pakistan is going to fall into radical hands one of these days, and they have nukes, I hope we have a plan together to take over their nukes when that happens. They're already two faced snakes that can't be trusted. I often wonder if the Russians are sittin back laughing at us trying to control Afghanistan, after we provided all those weapons to the Taliban. I read a news article that was showing how a lot of money we give to Afhgan firms ends up in Taliban hands, millions of dollars. I can find it and put a link here if anyone wants to read it. It will totally disgust you.
The worst of it is, while were fighting in Afghanistan, the Chinese are buying up all the mineral rights. Most notably lithium.

[REACT]

Let's not forget about President Obama's involvement with the Gunwalker scandal...

http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/07/robert-farago/atf-death-watch-44-atf-ice-dea-irs-and-white-house-implicated-in-gunwalker-scandal/

It gets better every day.

[Longitude Zero]

Once the floodgates open up on courts challenges to his political positions it wil be a non-stop watershed to see much of it swept away.

[readingbill]

Let's not allow facts to get in the way of a good rant, but I can't believe the amount of paranoia in this thread.

First - who controlled Congress when:
From 2001 until 2003, the Dems controlled the Senate while the Republicans controlled the presidency and the House.
From 2003 - 2007, Republicans were in control of all three branches.
From 2007 - 2011, the Dems controlled the House and Senate. Of course in 2011, the Republicans gained control the House.

The New Black Panther Party consists of a couple dozen guys in Philly. We have more to fear from the Patriot Act than we do the Black Panthers.
Holder's DOJ also decided not to go after those in the government who were involved in torture. Lots of libs aren't too happy about that.

And if you believe this is the first time the U.S. government provided arms to thugs, terrorists, criminals, or tyrants, then you've lived in a sheltered world. See Central America circa 1980s.

Now, where's Jocko's Ban Me smilie when I need it?

[O'Dell]

I honestly am beginning to believe that this 'debt crisis' is ongoing because Obama sees it as an opportunity to further his socialist agenda. By allowing the US debt rating to fall and to perhaps default on our debt, he opens the door for our creditors to start forcing actions that he cannot force due to the constraints -- the entirely appropriate restraints -- that the Constitution wraps around the three branches of government.

It would be best of Congress would wake up to this, and unilaterally vote to impeach him -- I'll accept Joe Biden for a time -- and let Congress get through this current issue and the voters get to the polls next year and put an end to this.

Just MHO.

I don't think there's any doubt the President Obama is out to destroy the capitalist system nor that he was a dedicated communist in college and probably still is. However, as far as impeachment is concerned, I can't see that he has committed an impeachable offense. Abominable yes, impeachable no.

[TheTman]

I sure hope this doesn't become a place to get banned just because you disagree with someone. I welcome your statement readingbill, ins't being able to express your point of vew unhindered a big part of what makes us America?

Yep, the dems had control the last 2 years of Bush's admin.

I don't believe anyone is worried about the New Black Panthers, what does piss off a lot of people is they way they intimidated voters at a polling place in Philly, and that they are getting away with it, without even a warning.
I believe that's a mere pittance compared to the voter fraud on in places like Chicago, Florida, probably all the big cities. I doubt if there's ever been a totally honest large scale election in US history.
The torture you mention...pretty freaking minor compared to what happens when Al-Queda gets ahold of you. So we poured some water down some guys nose and made him think he was drowning. Without the evidence we got from things like that, Bin Laden would most likely still be alive. Who knows what other valuble intelligence was gathered. Oh I imagine the libs think if we treated them nicely and gave em all lollipops they'd spill their guts in no time.

And we've provided weapons to some unsavory characters over the years.
Doesn't change the fact that federal agents were killed with arms that the BATF knew were going to drug dealers in Mexico, and that thousands semi auto weapons are now just across the border in the hands of some pretty bloodthirsty people.
Any reason people that are responsible for this shouldn't be brought to justice?
I don't care if they're lib, conservative or in-between, people need to pay for that.
Seems to me it was a stupid and risky plan to begin with.

You know most of us don't care for Obama and his policies, or his anti gun appointments, so the more of this that blows back on him and his cronies the better.

[Chief Joseph]

Let's not allow facts to get in the way of a good rant, but I can't believe the amount of paranoia in this thread.

First - who controlled Congress when:
From 2001 until 2003, the Dems controlled the Senate while the Republicans controlled the presidency and the House.
From 2003 - 2007, Republicans were in control of all three branches.
From 2007 - 2011, the Dems controlled the House and Senate. Of course in 2011, the Republicans gained control the House.

The New Black Panther Party consists of a couple dozen guys in Philly. We have more to fear from the Patriot Act than we do the Black Panthers.
Holder's DOJ also decided not to go after those in the government who were involved in torture. Lots of libs aren't too happy about that.

And if you believe this is the first time the U.S. government provided arms to thugs, terrorists, criminals, or tyrants, then you've lived in a sheltered world. See Central America circa 1980s.

Now, where's Jocko's Ban Me smilie when I need it?

The R's you refer to were progressives, democrat "lites" who were little better than the socialist dems. We have a new breed of R's now, fighting for us, Tea Party R's. Any time a "justice" dept. as big as the doj makes it a policy to only go after whites, it should scare EVERY ONE. Regardless of whether you think they are harmless, because I can assure you, those being intimidated trying to vote didn't think so. And add in these guys desire to kill "******* babies" should wake every one up. And this is the first time we armed cartels right over our border, with a free pass to bring them HERE, since this is where they do business. And it's pretty hard to prosecute torture when it was THAT that got us bin laden, and the dems supported the tactics too.

[readingbill]

Tom,
Glad to see this forum handles alternative viewpoints!
Bill

[O'Dell]

Let's not allow facts to get in the way of a good rant, but I can't believe the amount of paranoia in this thread.

First - who controlled Congress when:
From 2001 until 2003, the Dems controlled the Senate while the Republicans controlled the presidency and the House.
From 2003 - 2007, Republicans were in control of all three branches.
From 2007 - 2011, the Dems controlled the House and Senate. Of course in 2011, the Republicans gained control the House.

The New Black Panther Party consists of a couple dozen guys in Philly. We have more to fear from the Patriot Act than we do the Black Panthers.
Holder's DOJ also decided not to go after those in the government who were involved in torture. Lots of libs aren't too happy about that.

And if you believe this is the first time the U.S. government provided arms to thugs, terrorists, criminals, or tyrants, then you've lived in a sheltered world. See Central America circa 1980s.

Now, where's Jocko's Ban Me smilie when I need it?

I haven't heard anyone say that the Republicans are angels. They fouled up royally in the mid-nineties, and hopefully have learned from that fiasco. Nor was free-spending George Bush a friend of fiscal conservatives like me. That said, when I look at the current Republicans and Democrats, I can't help but lean toward the GOP, even though I don't belong to either party. I just wish that they would develop a backbone and fight for what they believe. I think that most here, and maybe most Americans, think a complete house-cleaning is in order, but I can't see where that's even remotely possible.

BTW it's not paranoia when they're really out to get you, and of that I have no doubt.

[crazymailman]

And if you believe this is the first time the U.S. government provided arms to thugs, terrorists, criminals, or tyrants, then you've lived in a sheltered world. See Central America circa 1980s.

Throughout history stuff like this has been done to help influence an outcome in your favor. The part that ticks me off is that these weapons were allowed to go to Mexico with the intent of harming our own 2nd Ammendment rights. If you recall, last year, the violence in Mexico was being fueled by "automatic weapons & machine guns" coming from the US. Mexico's president even made a trip to the US to complain about that. Had this Fast & Furious information not become public, the govt would have used Agent Terry's death and the American guns in Mexico stuff to make an attempt further restrict our own rights. And that's what really pisses me off.

[Longitude Zero]

As a life long Republican I see the faults in my own party. When they came to power in the house in 1994 they had been handed an historic opportunity and they got drunk with power and blew it. Had they played their cards right the Republicans could have prevented Obama and eviscerated the Demoncraps for decades.

[readingbill]

"...these weapons were allowed to go to Mexico with the intent of harming our own 2nd Ammendment rights"

It can be argued that the weapons were allowed to go to Mexico with the intent of tracking and apprehending higher-level dealers, but it ended up as a big screw-up, not unlike the famous weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

To claim that it's a plot by the BATF to restrict 2nd amendment rights here is frankly a bit, well, paranoid along with trying to predict what would have occurred if the information had not become public.

[paul34]

Oh, the SCOTUS suddenly cares about the Constitution? Ok, while they're at it, perhaps they should review:

The drug war
The Patriot act and any leftovers still in existence
The Federal Reserve and fiat currency systems
The student loan system (which is the next bubble to burst)

that's just for starters.



To claim that it's a plot by the BATF to restrict 2nd amendment rights here is frankly a bit, well, paranoid along with trying to predict what would have occurred if the information had not become public.

The BATFE has never been a friend of the 2A. The agency doesn't care even about its own agents, so long as it can achieve its own political goals.

[crazymailman]

I didn't claim it was a plot by the BATF. However, it is well known that Mr Obama is very much interested in stricter gun control. And by the way, he is the boss of the BATF.

[O'Dell]

As a life long Republican I see the faults in my own party. When they came to power in the house in 1994 they had been handed an historic opportunity and they got drunk with power and blew it. Had they played their cards right the Republicans could have prevented Obama and eviscerated the Demoncraps for decades.

That's probably true. Actually Newt's "Contract with America" wasn't a bad idea. [he is basically an idea man] Unfortunately, the execution suffered.

[Bawanna]

I didn't claim it was a plot by the BATF. However, it is well known that Mr Obama is very much interested in stricter gun control. And by the way, he is the boss of the BATF.

I do claim it was a plot, in my small mind I'm sure it was. I'd also refrain from using the Mr. in front of that O word, it's a form of respect he sorely dont deserve.

Wish I had enough loot to buy the White House, I'd like a shot at cleaning this mess up but we'd have to start with a brand new senate and congress, every single one brand new. Any old left behind would spoil all the new members.
First thing on the agenda is read the constitution daily 4 times. Then memorize John F Kennedy's line about Ask not what my country can do for me but what I can do for my country.
Most won't understand it without reading it a few times.

[Bill K]

I pray that the fall of this once blessed and great nation is more like that of the British Empire than that of ancient Rome and Greece. I fear not. Philippians 3:20 gives me solace.

[readingbill]

Galatians 3:28 gives me hope.

[crazymailman]

Yes, both of those verses offer great hope.

[les strat]

I say let the dogs loose. He is trying to kill every value this country was founded on.

[slowpoke]

Oh, the SCOTUS suddenly cares about the Constitution? Ok, while they're at it, perhaps they should review:

The drug war
The Patriot act and any leftovers still in existence
The Federal Reserve and fiat currency systems
The student loan system (which is the next bubble to burst)

that's just for starters.

Lets not forget obama-care