I couldn't sell my Glock 30sf so...

[melissa5]

I sent it off to Cold Bore Customs for a grip reduction. Got it back today and took it to the range where the gunsmith put a Ghost Rocket 3.5 trigger in it. Wow! I love this gun again!


http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/981/imag0009p.jpg

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[Barth]

I sent it off to Cold Bore Customs for a grip reduction. Got it back today and took it to the range where the gunsmith put a Ghost Rocket 3.5 trigger in it. Wow! I love this gun again!


Glock Girl strikes again - LOL!

This is my notion of a .45.
Slide and controls were nickle plated at the factory.
I added a Bar-Sto Stainless Steel near match barrel.
http://lh3.ggpht.com/-DFOankxiTNM/So74bixiWlI/AAAAAAAAAvg/y_7qAxtqMlE/SIG_P220_01.JPG

[melissa5]

Very nice Sig, Barth! Is it single or double stack?

[Barth]

Very nice Sig, Barth! Is it single or double stack?

Classic single stack P220.
You and I are of one mind about that - LOL!.

Sig Sauer P220 .45 - single stack
Sig Sauer P239 .357 - single stack
Kahr MK40 Elite 2003 .40 - single stack

[mr surveyor]

until they come out with viagra for fingers, most of us digital (as in fingers) longitudinally challenged folks have to shop the single stack isle most of the time.


surv

[Bawanna]

Looks nice Melissa. Bet it feels just sweet in the hand too.

That Sig is no slouch either.

[Barth]

Melissa's upgrade to the Ghost Rocket 3.5 trigger is particularly interesting.
As I have been considering upgrading my Sig P220 with a Sig SRT Short Reset Trigger myself!?!

Spill on the Ghost Rocket 3.5 Mellisa...

[Rainman48314]

I sent it off to Cold Bore Customs for a grip reduction. Got it back today and took it to the range where the gunsmith put a Ghost Rocket 3.5 trigger in it. Wow! I love this gun again!


http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/981/imag0009p.jpg

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6609/imag0008d.jpg
She looks mighty fine. We still need a picture of you posing with it. Just put a black bar across your eyes for privacy. It will probably be considered sexy here.:)

On a serious note. Do they ask for any hand measurements? How exactly do they size it so you're happy? If you don't mind, what's the cost on that work. Thank You

[Dietrich]

Melissa,that is very sharp looking.If you will,let us know how it shoots when you take it to the range.I`m curious to see if you shoot better with it now that you have gotten the work done.I don`t have a problem with the grip on my 30SF but I`m not averse to changing things a bit if it will make shooting the firearm more comfortable.

[melissa5]

Melissa's upgrade to the Ghost Rocket 3.5 trigger is particularly interesting.
As I have been considering upgrading my Sig P220 with a Sig SRT Short Reset Trigger myself!?!

Spill on the Ghost Rocket 3.5 Mellisa...

The smith didn't have anything to measure the trigger pull with but says it feels like it's around 3 lbs. It feels like a huge difference from the stock trigger pull and the reset is a lot shorter. It's still heavy enough for carry and heavier than a 1911 trigger. I'm going to have him do the same work on my G17.

[melissa5]

She looks mighty fine. We still need a picture of you posing with it. Just put a black bar across your eyes for privacy. It will probably be considered sexy here.:)

On a serious note. Do they ask for any hand measurements? How exactly do they size it so you're happy? If you don't mind, what's the cost on that work. Thank You

Maybe I'll post a picture one day! :p

They do not ask for hand measurements. There are two options for the grip reduction....standard and extreme. I asked for the extreme. The reduction only flattens the hump on the back of the grip and includes texturing and return shipping. That's $135. Finger groove removal is optional and is $15. Undercutting the trigger guard is $10. So, $160 for all that I had done. I can get a better grip on the gun and feel like the work was worth the price. Turn around time was a little over a week.

[melissa5]

Melissa,that is very sharp looking.If you will,let us know how it shoots when you take it to the range.I`m curious to see if you shoot better with it now that you have gotten the work done.I don`t have a problem with the grip on my 30SF but I`m not averse to changing things a bit if it will make shooting the firearm more comfortable.

I shot it last night. It feels great. The tree bark stippling is more aggressive than the stock grip, but along with the smaller grip, it lets me get a better hold on the gun. I don't feel like it's going to fly or slip out of my hand. I think I did shoot it better.

[TheTman]

I believe that started out as 10+1 capacity, is it 5+1 now? I like except the trigger is too light for on old shaky guy like me.

[Bawanna]

Should still be 10+1. The grip reduction has no negative effect on the capacity or the magazine.

I'd love to feel that trigger, I kind of lean towards your thinking but she says it's heavier than her 1911 which should be 4 to 5 # minimum. Course it has a thumb safety too. I bet it's not too bad. Proper finger control obviously important especially when it's aimed at your foot.

[TheTman]

Thanks Bawanna, I was thinking she had the grips reduced to single stack capacity, was wondering how they accomplished that.
I won't carry anything with too light of a trigger anymore, sometimes the problems in my neck cause muscle spasms to run down my arm to my hand. I'd hate to be holding a bad guy at gun point waiting on the cops and have a muscle spasm set off the gun. That's why I find the Kahr trigger system is perfect for me, has a little wriggle room for that type of thing.

[Bawanna]

It's all reduced front and back. Basically they fill the hollow voids in the factory frame and then reshape getting rid of extra unneeded space. Not sure why they do it the way they do, perhaps the molding process, they all seem to be similar that way.

It does make a huge difference in the feel. We sent all our dept 21's to Robar for texture on all and reduction on many. The grip is much more solid even when wet etc. I did my own, not nearly as pretty but it feels good and with my shade tree bedliner coating it feels even better. I don't hold it much as it resides in a cabinet next to the bed.

[TheTman]

I've never held a Glock, but I have small hands so I bet that would be a good thing for me to do if I ever buy one. For some reason I've never wanted one, I think it's the tupperware thing. Now that I have my Kahrs CW's I see it's not such a bad thing after all. Much nicer to carry all day than an all metal gun. I need more practice, I'm afraid in a situation I may revert back to my limp wristing ways in the excitement. One saving thing is the SD ammo seems to run hotter and is more forgiving of my faults.

[melissa5]

Should still be 10+1. The grip reduction has no negative effect on the capacity or the magazine.

I'd love to feel that trigger, I kind of lean towards your thinking but she says it's heavier than her 1911 which should be 4 to 5 # minimum. Course it has a thumb safety too. I bet it's not too bad. Proper finger control obviously important especially when it's aimed at your foot.

Yeah, it's still 10+1. I don't think my 1911's are 4 -5 lbs. The Glock was 5 lbs before the trigger job.

[melissa5]

It's all reduced front and back. Basically they fill the hollow voids in the factory frame and then reshape getting rid of extra unneeded space. Not sure why they do it the way they do, perhaps the molding process, they all seem to be similar that way.

It does make a huge difference in the feel. We sent all our dept 21's to Robar for texture on all and reduction on many. The grip is much more solid even when wet etc. I did my own, not nearly as pretty but it feels good and with my shade tree bedliner coating it feels even better. I don't hold it much as it resides in a cabinet next to the bed.

The guy that did mine uses a different process that involves heating the back strap and basically mashing it flat. Then he sands off the finger grooves and stipples. Plus, he costs a lot less than Robar.

[Bawanna]

Yeah, it's still 10+1. I don't think my 1911's are 4 -5 lbs. The Glock was 5 lbs before the trigger job.

This is just my opinion mind ya and your a big girl smart enough to make your own decisions but if them 1911's are less than 4#'s I'd be real reluctant to carry them. Not much forgiveness in the best of circumstances and a really light trigger could very well be a bad thing. A range gun only is a horse of a different ancestory but a carry gun needs some resistance.

Your smith should have a trigger gauge, he really should.

I'd really be surprised if your are under 5, unless they been worked on. That out of the box series 70 of yours I'll bet is 6 or more. It might be clean and feel good but I bet it's over 5.

[melissa5]

This is just my opinion mind ya and your a big girl smart enough to make your own decisions but if them 1911's are less than 4#'s I'd be real reluctant to carry them. Not much forgiveness in the best of circumstances and a really light trigger could very well be a bad thing. A range gun only is a horse of a different ancestory but a carry gun needs some resistance.

Your smith should have a trigger gauge, he really should.

I'd really be surprised if your are under 5, unless they been worked on. That out of the box series 70 of yours I'll bet is 6 or more. It might be clean and feel good but I bet it's over 5.

I checked the Glock site The G30 comes with a 5.5 lb trigger pull. Colt doesn't put the trigger pulls on their web site, so I really don't know for sure, but they feel a lot lighter than 5.5 lbs. The next time I'm in a gun shop, I'l have the trigger pull checked. My Colts haven't been worked on.

[Bawanna]

I checked the Glock site The G30 comes with a 5.5 lb trigger pull. Colt doesn't put the trigger pulls on their web site, so I really don't know for sure, but they feel a lot lighter than 5.5 lbs. The next time I'm in a gun shop, I'l have the trigger pull checked. My Colts haven't been worked on.

Glocks are very clear on their pull weights and they are easy to swap. I'm really curious about the pull on them Colts now. Trigger pull can really be a deceptive thing as I found when I put the 5 # striker spring in using a trigger gauge before and after. I could not feel much difference but the gauge don't lie.
I guess my weak feeble point is you really don't want a 1911 or any gun for that matter with too light a trigger for carry purposes, but you already know that.

[mr surveyor]

when I bought my "used" Kimber, it had a 2.2-2.5 lb trigger. It was originally owned by a sheriff's deputy, and I have no idea why he had the trigger dropped so much, unless he shot steel matches. I carried it for quite a while, and it is still the most accurate handgun I own. But, as I get older I realize that 2.2-2.5 lb trigger is just too touchy, so the Kimber just doesnt get carried much. I plan to return it to the 5 lbs it should be.

[Barth]

I have an all Stainless S&W 44 mag M629-2 Mountain Revolver.
Had a trigger job and over travel adjustment installed.
The gunsmith told me he refused to use lighter springs
due to it being too dangerous for self-defense.
That cleaning up the action would be good enough and
the stainless would actually polish its self. The gun would get even smoother over time.

I loved the action initially but after hundreds of rounds SA got so light it was scary.
I stopped letting anyone else fire the gun as EVERYBODY had problems with it.
Took it back to the original gunsmith to have the cylinder tightened and he said the trigger was too light.
Inquired who had performed the action job – LOL!
Double action on the gun is nothing short of epic.
But SA likes to misbehave and has a dangerous mind of its own.

[CJB]

Something about a gal with .45 is like being caught in a thundersorm: Awesome to behold but scarey as hell...!!!!

[Bawanna]

Got a be a nightmare when she has 4 ? of em. A gun loving woman for sure.

[OldLincoln]

Yup, one for each hand!

[Rainman48314]

Thanks Bawanna, I was thinking she had the grips reduced to single stack capacity, was wondering how they accomplished that.
I won't carry anything with too light of a trigger anymore, sometimes the problems in my neck cause muscle spasms to run down my arm to my hand. I'd hate to be holding a bad guy at gun point waiting on the cops and have a muscle spasm set off the gun. That's why I find the Kahr trigger system is perfect for me, has a little wriggle room for that type of thing.There are some interested videos on YouTube showing how the reduction is acheived. Material is not ground off. They use heat to reshape the grip. I suppose you could say its more dense when they are done.

[melissa5]

Something about a gal with .45 is like being caught in a thundersorm: Awesome to behold but scarey as hell...!!!!

[QUOTE=Bawanna]Got a be a nightmare when she has 4 ? of em. A gun loving woman for sure./QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldLincoln]Yup, one for each hand!/QUOTE]


LOL! Why is that scary?

I only have 3 45s. Although there could be 4 soon since I'm going to a gun show later today.

One for each hand...I'm thinking that the G30 and the OACP would balance out nicely on each hip. LOL!

[CJB]

Why is that scarey..... hehehehehe.... as if you didn't know!

As brother Vic would say "She cracks the whip, you make the trip!"

[Bawanna]

Definitely get no back sassing from me, I can assure you of that. I think I'm gonna whittle on some Melissa grips later just so she don't think I'm slacking.

I thought there was already 4, I must have lost one. The Series 70 full size, I thought there was a commander size, then the OACP and the 30?
No matter, good luck today looking for number 4. I missed our show this month, it was the weekend we left fishing, can't make em all I guess.

[melissa5]

Definitely get no back sassing from me, I can assure you of that. I think I'm gonna whittle on some Melissa grips later just so she don't think I'm slacking.

I thought there was already 4, I must have lost one. The Series 70 full size, I thought there was a commander size, then the OACP and the 30?
No matter, good luck today looking for number 4. I missed our show this month, it was the weekend we left fishing, can't make em all I guess.

Maybe you were thinking about the SIS Pro that I traded for the Series 70. No matter, there is a number 4 now....Colt New Agent .45. Found a used one for a good price. Then, I bought a Mossberg 12 gauge tactical with the adjustable stock. Really, I'm going to avoid gun shows from now on. :D

[Barth]

Maybe you were thinking about the SIS Pro that I traded for the Series 70. No matter, there is a number 4 now....Colt New Agent .45. Found a used one for a good price. Then, I bought a Mossberg 12 gauge tactical with the adjustable stock. Really, I'm going to avoid gun shows from now on. :D

Melissa, nobody believes you - LOL!!!

[OldLincoln]

Why? "Girls just wanna have fun!"

[melissa5]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8033/photoon20110730at1513.jpg

[Bawanna]

Goodness gracious we've got a monster on our hands. A cute one but a monster none the less. Does a New Agent have wood grips??? I'm thinkin so.

I may have a new job title when folks ask. I'm the dude that makes grips for the gun loving woman. Full time job.

Good for you Melissa. I like Mossbergs and of course who can't love a 45 of any flavor.

[melissa5]

Does a New Agent have wood grips??? I'm thinkin so.

I may have a new job title when folks ask. I'm the dude that makes grips for the gun loving woman. Full time job.

Good for you Melissa. I like Mossbergs and of course who can't love a 45 of any flavor.

The New Agent already has thin, wooden grips, so I may just leave them on there. But then again..... :)

When you post some more grip pics, I'll update your web site.

[Bawanna]

The New Agent already has thin, wooden grips, so I may just leave them on there. But then again..... :)

When you post some more grip pics, I'll update your web site.

So your saying you've lowered your standards and will accept just anyones grips on your toys now?

I'm glad they are acceptable as is, at least till I get the rest of this pretty buckeye burl whittled out for ya.

You just never know those grips might have been made by someone that didn't even have a mustache. Just sayin........

I really gotta hunker down and get going on that website. I hope my procrastination doesn't make you think I'm not excited about it. I think its about the coolest thing ever. I gotta do my part.

[JFootin]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8033/photoon20110730at1513.jpg

I think I'm in love! :w00t: Just think, a loving wife and a bodyguard, all in one! Nice teeth, too. (Always check the teeth. :cool:)

Melissa, you like beards. Here's a recent photo:

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/ButtUgly.jpg

[melissa5]

So your saying you've lowered your standards and will accept just anyones grips on your toys now?

I'm glad they are acceptable as is, at least till I get the rest of this pretty buckeye burl whittled out for ya.

You just never know those grips might have been made by someone that didn't even have a mustache. Just sayin........

I really gotta hunker down and get going on that website. I hope my procrastination doesn't make you think I'm not excited about it. I think its about the coolest thing ever. I gotta do my part.

LOL! Your grips are the best, sugar! Is there enough of the buckey burl for you to have a set too? Those scales weren't as thick as I though they were going to be.

[melissa5]

I think I'm in love! :w00t: Just think, a loving wife and a bodyguard, all in one! Nice teeth, too. (Always check the teeth. :cool:)

Melissa, you like beards. Here's a recent photo:

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/ButtUgly.jpg

OMG! That's not you! :p

[JFootin]

LOL! Just kidding! I have a beard a lot like Greg. Have a look....

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Me2-18-11.jpg

[melissa5]

LOL! Just kidding! I have a beard a lot like Greg. Have a look....

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Me2-18-11.jpg

Now that's a nice looking mustache and you're not posing for a mug shot!

[Barth]

Now that's a nice looking mustache and you're not posing for a mug shot!

I'm guessing Photoshop - LOL!

[JFootin]

Yeah. I got that guy's picture off the news the other day. I labelled the picture Butt Ugly.jpg. Fit's, doesn't it? :D

[JFootin]

I'm guessing Photoshop - LOL!

No Photoshop. That's all me. Hard to see my Hazel eyes. I took it with my cheap web cam.

[mr surveyor]

LOL! Just kidding! I have a beard a lot like Greg. Have a look....

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Me2-18-11.jpg




oooohhhhh...... I have to say it.... if that really is your picture, you're as butt ugly as me.... we have the exact same hair style/color...same exact facial hair style/color....glasses.... age (I mean "experienced appearance").....

I ain't about to post a real picture of me.... I would break algore's internet superhighway:D


surv:):)

(are we cuzins by chance?)

[JFootin]

No comment.

[mr surveyor]

I guess we ain't cuzins.... if'n we were you'd already be here in downtown Stumpwater kickin my butt for even suggesting we favored in appearance:D

[MW surveyor]

geez....That makes three of us that look sort of alike. Had to loose the beard and mustache though for the job I'm on at the moment (in an emergency may have to use a SCBA).....no jokes please.

MW

[Bawanna]

geez....That makes three of us that look sort of alike. Had to loose the beard and mustache though for the job I'm on at the moment (in an emergency may have to use a SCBA).....no jokes please.

MW

It's important to use a SCBA, don't want to transmit any of them commutable diseases you get down there in Mexico. Best to be safe. What that has to do with a beard or mustache I'll leave up to the experts.
Sounds like one of them pervert deals to me. I better write Dear Dietrich, he'll know.

I can't think of any jokes anyone might think up for this stuff, serious business.

[JFootin]

I can't find Sumpwater, or Stumpwater, or whatever you call the place, but if you look like me, I'm sorry for ya.

What is a SCBA? A scuba mask?

[MW surveyor]

Wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.............. .....somebody might need one after eating a whole bunch of Mexican food.

(need to have a tight seal on your face :) )

[JFootin]

Just be glad you don't look like the guy in the first picture I posted. Now, that's the Webster's Dictionary definition of butt ugly! Did you see the crew cut with bangs? And the overgrown and unattended neck hair? Geeez!

[melissa5]

I image we've all had really bad haircuts at one time or another. :madgrin:

[MW surveyor]

I've seen that photo before but I just can't placed it. I know it's some db though.

[Bawanna]

Just be glad you don't look like the guy in the first picture I posted. Now, that's the Webster's Dictionary definition of butt ugly! Did you see the crew cut with bangs? And the overgrown and unattended neck hair? Geeez!

I'd sure like to get that picture of me off the net somehow. People are using it right and left without my permission and I'm starting to feel like a WWII pinup poster.

So I let the neck hair get a little out of control, could happen to anyone.

Bangs can be beautiful, and I suffer from hair loss in a few places so no harm in making up for it where I can.

Somehow I don't think SCBA is what I thought it was. Must be some sort of secret surveyor tool, like a tin foil hat when your doing GPS stuff. I ain't the pointiest fork in the drawer but I know stuff.

[mr surveyor]

I 'usta have to stay clean faced enough for an scba, then found out that being a zombie made it such that even H2S was a pleasant fragrance

[Bawanna]

Now the surveyors around here are ganging up on us mere mortals and just showing off. H2S, I4Q, J9R, I can do Navajo code talking too.

Windtalkers r us.

[MW surveyor]

Bawanna - just to edumacte you. H2S smells like rotten eggs. In concentrations of 10 ppm the alarm goes off. At 20 ppm you better be putt'n on the SCBA as the concentration goes higher, you will lose your sense of smell. If the concentration goes higher, it will keeel you!

[JFootin]

I've seen that photo before but I just can't placed it. I know it's some db though.

That guy was in the news here in Western NC a couple of weeks ago. He had a steady job as a supervisor in the road maintenance department. But he got caught stealing truck loads of gravel and selling it on the side, and keeping his diesel truck running by stealing hundreds of gallons of fuel from unmanned maintenance supply properties which he had keys to. So, he's about as dumb as he looks. Ruined a good, steady gig when far too many people can't find a job.

You might have seen it here on the forum. I used it in a post a few days ago.

[Bawanna]

Bawanna - just to edumacte you. H2S smells like rotten eggs. In concentrations of 10 ppm the alarm goes off. At 20 ppm you better be putt'n on the SCBA as the concentration goes higher, you will lose your sense of smell. If the concentration goes higher, it will keeel you!

Where can I get me one of them SCBA's, I just started into the bathroom and I think my kids emiting H2S!:eek: It surely didn't lose my sense of smell or keeel me but I think it would have had I stayed in there any longer.

Maybe I should take him to the surveyor supply house and get a filter installed or something?

[JFootin]

Good one!

http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=74&pictureid=497

[MW surveyor]

Nah, if you can still smell you're OK. Just tell them to turn on the exhaust vent.

[CJB]

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8033/photoon20110730at1513.jpg

Great.....I'm drinking bourbon and see that!!!! Nothing like falling in love, crappin yer breeks and running for cover all at the same instant....!!!!!!


(edited...its from the droid fone, not the Makers Mark)

[mr surveyor]

I'm gonna have to fill up my dirty tequila glass... a couple of times.... so I can interpret that there message.... where'd I leave my secret decoder ring:D

[CJB]

Hey....try typing on this thing while serpentining!!!!

[tv_racin_fan]

I have to agree with the thought of having a carry firearm that has a stiffer trigger. I recently changed the springs in my SP101 and when I did I went with the lightest of the set (did the same thing to my GP100). Now in DA mode I believe it is plenty stiff but in SA mode it is a bit light. I did the spring swap partly because the wife was only able to pull the trigger in DA mode about ten times in succession, now she can pull it until the cows come home (slight exageration). On one range trip or another I fired off a round slightly before I was ready, that round was just a bit outside of the bullseye (short range). I did the same thing with a 1911 with a very light trigger.

I have considered a bobbed hammer for the SP101 but I really like having the SA option.

[Bawanna]

I have to agree with the thought of having a carry firearm that has a stiffer trigger. I recently changed the springs in my SP101 and when I did I went with the lightest of the set (did the same thing to my GP100). Now in DA mode I believe it is plenty stiff but in SA mode it is a bit light. I did the spring swap partly because the wife was only able to pull the trigger in DA mode about ten times in succession, now she can pull it until the cows come home (slight exageration). On one range trip or another I fired off a round slightly before I was ready, that round was just a bit outside of the bullseye (short range). I did the same thing with a 1911 with a very light trigger.

I have considered a bobbed hammer for the SP101 but I really like having the SA option.

I'm in the same boat with the SP101. It's just too hard for the wife to operate. It's not bad in SA but not too light. I might have to investigate a spring swap myself. Never been inside one, is it a tough thing to do?
My Cbob is the lightest of my 1911's that I've actually measured and its between 4 1/2 and 5. I wouldn't want it any lighter.

[MW surveyor]

Pretty easy if all you are going to replace is the hammer spring. That's what I did with mine. Did not touch the trigger return spring as a lighter trigger return spring slows down the DA. I just cleaned up the channel that it rides in. However, if I remember correctly your SP101 is a 22 caliber. Not sure how light you can go with the hammer spring and still get reliability in touching off the 22 caliber rounds.

Since you already know how to take it apart.....Just remove the hammer spring from the strut and replace with a lighter spring. I used a vise to hold the strut and a fork to remove/replace the spring. Easy peazy.

You can get a revolver shooter's pack from Wolff that has a selection of reduced power springs for pretty cheap. Mine says it's for all calibers so something should work!