Well my CW40 is going back today

[Iron Worker]

Bought mine just a few days ago . 1st shot it wouldn't feed all the way into chamber.After 200 rounds through it it still won't feed first shot,and that after releasing slid stop. Then after I pushed slide in and fired, slide would lock open ,then release slide stop and maybe it would chamber and maybe it wouldn't. 2nd and 3rd shot would lock the slide again. Then on 4th,5th and 6ths the gun would function fine. So called Kahr up and they immediately gave me a shipping authorization #. So off it goes.

[wyntrout]

Been there, done that, sucks, but hopefully it will come back 100% functional. That's the best thing you could do, though, send it right back to them.

Good luck on a full repair and quick turn around. It will be worth the wait.

Wynn:)

[TheTman]

Have faith Iron Worker, I had to send my CW45 back to Kahr, and they had it back in my hands in exactly 7 days. It's been flawless since. I hope you get the same speedy turnaround and great repair job.

[Iron Worker]

Have faith Iron Worker, I had to send my CW45 back to Kahr, and they had it back in my hands in exactly 7 days. It's been flawless since. I hope you get the same speedy turnaround and great repair job. Do you trust both your CW's what work did they do on yours ?

[MW surveyor]

If you're the same Iron Worker that posted this problem on another forum......

Hope you took everyone's advice and went out and bought some real gun oil and lube instead of using WD 40.

Edited to add - See that you took everyone's advice. Heck of a bunch of piling on that the WD 40 reference got you :eek:

FWIW - my CW 9 has never had any problems that was not caused by anything other than some of my real weak reloads.

[OldLincoln]

Using WD40 on a gun is like using kerosene for motor oil in your Lexus. Not good.

[LaP]

I agree with MW surveyor. So far, after 530 rounds my month old CW9 has been flawless. Am I just Lucky?... fine. I'll accept that.
Hope your Kahr comes back from the repair shop all buffed up and shiny.

[dursker]

Quick question...just got my Kahr CW9...I saw it and fell in love with it after seriously considering a Ruger LC9...The Kahr just has it all over the Ruger...Anyway, I have been seeing some scary photos of CW9's with chewed up polymer frames where the slide rides supposedly from normal shooting...I DO NOT want this to happen to my "sexy" new pistol...does this really happen and what can I do to prevent it? For example, use heavier grease on the slide before shooting...Thanks.

[RogerP9fan]

Have faith Iron Worker, I had to send my CW45 back to Kahr, and they had it back in my hands in exactly 7 days. It's been flawless since. I hope you get the same speedy turnaround and great repair job.
Ditto. Love the CW45

[JFootin]

Quick question...just got my Kahr CW9...I saw it and fell in love with it after seriously considering a Ruger LC9...The Kahr just has it all over the Ruger...Anyway, I have been seeing some scary photos of CW9's with chewed up polymer frames where the slide rides supposedly from normal shooting...I DO NOT want this to happen to my "sexy" new pistol...does this really happen and what can I do to prevent it? For example, use heavier grease on the slide before shooting...Thanks.

I have been on this forum for a few months, now, and I've never heard anything like that. Where did you hear or read such a thing. Are there photos?

The only way I think something like that could possibly happen would be if someone was feeding it some extremely overpowered reloads that are +++++p+++++.

These are very high quality, long lasting guns. We have a member named jocko who has over 32,000 rounds through his years old PM9. jocko will tell you to look at these sticky threads on cleaning and lubing your new Kahr, then shoot it like you stole it!

Proper prep of a new kahr (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1521)

Kahr Lube Diagram (http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=308)

[Iron Worker]

When it gets back I'm either selling it or it will be a trade in for a Walther PPS ? You tube has many vidieo of failed Kahrs.

[OldLincoln]

The poly frame comes out of a mold and sometimes sticks up a bit too high. Most don't, but they can take a rub from the slide action. If you notice anything like that just polish the roughness out. If it's left rough the slide will take more off next time. I always rub my finger over them after lubing the front rails with just a trace of lube left on the finger. Don't know if it helps but can't hurt.

[jlottmc]

Well since you seemed determined not to like Kahr, I'll be the first to say: Its been real, its been fun but it ain't been real fun. I hope you find something that works for you. I won't even bother trying to explain to you that you can find anything on youtube, and that as a Kahr dedicated forum we hear more about problems than anywhere else, which gives an impression of lots of problems. The opposite however is really true, how many people have a Kahr, and say nothing about it here because it works, and how many of us have had few if any problems? Shalom, and Litrahot

[slowpoke]

You can't believe everything on You Tube. Kahr has many competitors that have employee's that can put anything they want on You Tube.
My own CW40 has been perfect from day one.

[Iron Worker]

What does the word
Litrahot" mean ?............ Well if the gun come back fixed,then I'll keep it. I don't have any money to just throw around recklessly . No doubt it conceals rather well.

[slowpoke]

Perhaps this chart will be of some use.

http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=71&pictureid=465

[MW surveyor]

So a few things to get straight or not.

You bought the CW40 without even finding this forum first so that you could review potential problems.

You fired the gun without proper lube.

The gun did not work as you expected.

Went on another forum bashing the gun and people there directed you here, where you learned how really really bad the gun was. However, you neglected to tell them about your failures to clean and lube the gun properly. Complain about the number of lube points, etc.

The you post this on the same forum where you first reported your problem

"So the walther PPS is smaller then a S&W M&P ? So when my Dog ----- CW 40 gets back where can I sell it ? Who'd want to buy it ? I guess trade it in for a PPS ?"

My advice, get rid of the gun because you will never be happy with it even if it runs properly when you get it back.

Sorry, just that it really bugs me when everything is a POS right off the bat. Sometimes you're right. Have fun with the PPS and hope that it works out for you.

BTW - I only own one Kahr, a CW 9 that has been flawless from the first with 1,750 rounds through it so far. Have a whole bunch of other brands.

[jocko]

:roll::roll::4:
When it gets back I'm either selling it or it will be a trade in for a Walther PPS ? You tube has many vidieo of failed Kahrs.

case probably the best thing for u to do. Kahrs are a man's gun:4:

[Iron Worker]

Oh so its a man's gun. No where in instruction manual for my Sig did it say I had to fire it 200rnds to be dependable. Neither did my M1 grarand,FN Fal,AR-15,M1A, Colt 1911, Berreta 84,Mini 14,Rem 1100. Ok WD 40 wasn't the right lube but it wasn't salt water either Didn't hurt any of these other guns a bit. Why is this $419.00 gun so lube sensitive ? IMHO its cause there is a design flaw. I've read reports of guys sending their Kahrs back to factory multiple times and still not functioning. Yes a few guns came back fixed but they seem to be in the minority.

[jlottmc]

Litrahot= see ya later. We get that kind around once in awhile, they show their ass, and usually move on. MW Surv. I did not know about the other stuff from elsewhere, but now that I do will add don't feed the trolls, and that is all that's going on here. Truth be told he probably works for Glock, or is so in love with them, that all else is crap. At least in that mind. I've said my piece and if it sounds like fanboy, you might want to know that it's not. I just little tolerance for people coming here (or anywhere else for that matter) and bashing something that works for me just because they know not better. Again, I wish you well in your endeavors, just don't include me.

[slowpoke]

I guess that because I can't ride a unicycle, that there all broke.

[Bawanna]

Walk softly gentlemen. Drop the flamethrowers. We're here to help when we can.

Iron Worker needs a little help. Thats ok, we all need help now and then.

I'm hoping Kahr sends that puppy back running like a champ and he'll come back and change his tune. If not it's still his call to make with no direction or GPS coordinates needed from us.

Happy thoughts.............

[Iron Worker]

Hey I hope for the best. Hey I know that there are many happy Kahr owners out there. I hope to be one of them. Also I now see the wisdom of leaving the WD 40 alone.

[Bawanna]

Hey I hope for the best. Hey I know that there are many happy Kahr owners out there. I hope to be one of them. Also I now see the wisdom of leaving the WD 40 alone.

See your making progress already. I use WD40 for squeaky door hinges, cleaning road tar off my car or when necessary as a flame thrower.

We have a local agency where if an officer is found putting WD40 on their gun it's automatic suspension. Leave the WD 40 alone is a good idea.

Keep an open mind, give it a chance, it's worth tinkering with to get right.

Also to address an earlier post, Kahr is honest about their break in. They tell you that up front in the manual. It may not need 200 rounds, most probably don't but usually problems work themselves out in that range. Other manufacturers need break in also, they don't come out and say it but they need it, some more than others.

Beyond that attaining faith in your carry gun is whatever you personally require. I need 500 trouble free rounds before I'm totally confident. I guess you could call that my personal break in period. I've lowered that standard some due to ammo and time restraint but it's still way more than 200.

[jocko]

Hey I hope for the best. Hey I know that there are many happy Kahr owners out there. I hope to be one of them. Also I now see the wisdom of leaving the WD 40 alone.

BIG CHANGE in ur thread from earlier on. truthfully, kahrs are not for every one, I could really give a damn what sig or others put in their owner manuals. Kahr IMO is just basicaly being up front with people. Anyone who buys a gun and doesn't give it some rounds down range before "trusting it' is IMO STUPID. call them break in or what every you want but u buy a gun take it out of the box and stick it in ur pocket and call it good to go again is STUPID. If u shoot any gun and can say after 200 rounds that the gun is not smoother in operation kand feel, then u truly hve bought a wonderful gun. Keep looking u might just find one to.

You best peddle it and move on to a gun you can trust.no insult to that, no embarrassement IMO. U ain't gonna like your kahr when it comes back,ur gonna criticise it with every little thing that might go wrong with it. Life is to short, to live with frustrations.

[MW surveyor]

OK, I'm all better now.

Breath in, breath out, breath in, breath out. Tai Chi then went out and shot my CW9.

Have that warm Zen feeling all over.

[jlottmc]

I'll keep the pilot light lit. All I say is let Kahr have a chance to make it right. You do know that the WD in that chemical stands for water displacer, right. It also has a tendency not to lubricate, and leaves a sticky film behind when it dries. Just sayin'.

[Bawanna]

I remember when I used to have a pilot light. More like a candle wick these days.

Back in an earlier life when I cared about such things, I inquired of a testing company, kind of like Pittsburg Testing. I worked at an industrial supply place in the warehouse so had some contacts. I wanted to know the characteristics and properties (damn this is technical talk for ole bawanna) of WD 40, LPS, and some others I've forgotten.

They had already tested and had data on several. I wasn't surprised to find out that WD actually turned into an adhesive after enough time passed.

It has a purpose and it works good for that (water displacing, the key word here) but it has no place on a gun that I can think of.

One excellent purpose I found a few years ago was to take a piece of plywood and build a little jump for your kids remote control car/truck. The better the quality of the car/truck and suspension the better.
Spray the ramp liberally (gosh I hate that word) with WD. Now you can do burnouts and slip and slide.
When that gets boring hose it down again with the WD and light it on far, careful of the eyebrows and arm hair (yes they are flammable, ask me how I know this?). Now you can drive the remote control car/truck thru the flamming inferno with wicked cool results. No remote car/trucks were injured in the performance of this test.

Hmm, just had an idea. A plywood ramp covered in icecream............this warrants further consideration.

[slowpoke]

I remember when I used to have a pilot light. More like a candle wick these days.

Back in an earlier life when I cared about such things, I inquired of a testing company, kind of like Pittsburg Testing. I worked at an industrial supply place in the warehouse so had some contacts. I wanted to know the characteristics and properties (damn this is technical talk for ole bawanna) of WD 40, LPS, and some others I've forgotten.

They had already tested and had data on several. I wasn't surprised to find out that WD actually turned into an adhesive after enough time passed.

It has a purpose and it works good for that (water displacing, the key word here) but it has no place on a gun that I can think of.

One excellent purpose I found a few years ago was to take a piece of plywood and build a little jump for your kids remote control car/truck. The better the quality of the car/truck and suspension the better.
Spray the ramp liberally (gosh I hate that word) with WD. Now you can do burnouts and slip and slide.
When that gets boring hose it down again with the WD and light it on far, careful of the eyebrows and arm hair (yes they are flammable, ask me how I know this?). Now you can drive the remote control car/truck thru the flamming inferno with wicked cool results. No remote car/trucks were injured in the performance of this test.

Hmm, just had an idea. A plywood ramp covered in ice cream............this warrants further consideration.
Sprinkled with chocolate, then it's a chick magnet. :D

[Bawanna]

Now that's what I'm talking about. Good idear.

[Iron Worker]

The Saga continues !

[Bawanna]

Don't ya just love how we take a thread on a unhappy customer and turn it into a plywood covered with icecream and chocolate sprinkles for a chick magnet.

Is this a great country or what.

[jocko]

yup kinda turns one's stomach.

[LaP]

Don't ya just love how we take a thread on a unhappy customer and turn it into a plywood covered with icecream and chocolate sprinkles for a chick magnet.

Is this a great country or what.

I am truly impressed with the gyrations this thread took. I learned to not use WD 40 for gun lube, but to spred icecream liberally over plywood and add sprinkles.
NOW that's some good info.:roll:

[Bawanna]

Yup, done as a public service.

Sorry to hear about your gyrations, maybe a little Milk of Magnesia will help with that?

[jocko]

where else can u gewtthis knd of information and it is all free!!

[Iron Worker]

They still have it. I already had a criminal knock on my door I told him to come back later .

[Barth]

They still have it. I already had a criminal knock on my door I told him to come back later .

This is one reason why many of us have multiple guns.
I still squirm while my baby's away.
But all of her friends keep me warm at night!

[Iron Worker]

I have many also. I carry my Sig P-229 .

[Barth]

I have many also. I carry my Sig P-229 .

Right there with you - Sig P239/357

[O'Dell]

I have many also. I carry my Sig P-229 .

The CW40 is still my favorite 'holster' carry gun, mainly for the reason I shoot it well and it's small and light. If Kahr took it away from me, I could fall back to the M&P c 40, S&W CS45, STI Escort, or Kimber UC II. All are similar in size, except width, but the CW is from 6 to 8 ozs lighter, and that makes a big difference to me. I hope you get it back soon.

[Rainman48314]

Oh so its a man's gun. No where in instruction manual for my Sig did it say I had to fire it 200rnds to be dependable. Neither did my M1 grarand,FN Fal,AR-15,M1A, Colt 1911, Berreta 84,Mini 14,Rem 1100. Ok WD 40 wasn't the right lube but it wasn't salt water either Didn't hurt any of these other guns a bit. Why is this $419.00 gun so lube sensitive ? IMHO its cause there is a design flaw. I've read reports of guys sending their Kahrs back to factory multiple times and still not functioning. Yes a few guns came back fixed but they seem to be in the minority.I'm a happy Sig P238 owner. Their gunsmith and another local guy advised me that there is a break-in period. 200 rounds.

I did not start out happy. I returned the Sig for tweaking at 300 rounds and the 'smith found a fracture in the frame. Sig replaced the gun. It too had to go back (around round 150) but after the feedramp polish, all has been well.

I bought a PM9 and suffered thru some break-in glitches, but, after 250 rounds, all is good. Never needed to go back to Kahr. Have a little faith and patience.

[Rainman48314]

I remember when I used to have a pilot light. More like a candle wick these days.

Back in an earlier life when I cared about such things, I inquired of a testing company, kind of like Pittsburg Testing. I worked at an industrial supply place in the warehouse so had some contacts. I wanted to know the characteristics and properties (damn this is technical talk for ole bawanna) of WD 40, LPS, and some others I've forgotten.

They had already tested and had data on several. I wasn't surprised to find out that WD actually turned into an adhesive after enough time passed.

It has a purpose and it works good for that (water displacing, the key word here) but it has no place on a gun that I can think of.

One excellent purpose I found a few years ago was to take a piece of plywood and build a little jump for your kids remote control car/truck. The better the quality of the car/truck and suspension the better.
Spray the ramp liberally (gosh I hate that word) with WD. Now you can do burnouts and slip and slide.
When that gets boring hose it down again with the WD and light it on far, careful of the eyebrows and arm hair (yes they are flammable, ask me how I know this?). Now you can drive the remote control car/truck thru the flamming inferno with wicked cool results. No remote car/trucks were injured in the performance of this test.

Hmm, just had an idea. A plywood ramp covered in icecream............this warrants further consideration.

I find that WD40 is GREAT for the rollers on my garage door track. Smooth and smells kinda nice..better than Hoppes #9 but that's just a personal opinion.

About a week after I bought my first hand gun, I read on the internet to keep it (WD40) away from any gun. It penetrates too well on ammo and messes up your primer. No need for it with so many suitable products available. If cost is a factor, buy Mobil One or any synthetic CAR oil.

[Iron Worker]

I'm gonna give Kahr the benefit of the doubt.

[mr surveyor]

I'm gonna give Kahr the benefit of the doubt.



wise man with good flame suit:D

[Iron Worker]

Ok its back ,work slip said they polished the Slide stop ,lubed it ,test fired it. I'll test and report back.

[OldLincoln]

just remember to run it wet through break in. You'll become a Kahr fan yet.

[Iron Worker]

Well I loaded a clip with 6 rnds,released slide stop and it chambered a round like its suppose to. Bang ! Ejects empty and slide locks open,dang it release slide stop and it fails to feed 2nd round. So I assist the slide and Bang slide locks open upon ejecting 2nd empty,again assist slide and it fires properly the rest of the magazine. So load up another full magazine and it repeats same malfunctions but this time fails to feed 1st round.( Already had 200 rnds through prior to sending it back) I don't have the patience for that stuff. Not going to send it back multiple times ,I need a compact CCW today. So I traded it in on a new Walther PPS. So for me thumbs down on at least Kahr CW.40s.:(

[jocko]

so did u tell the new owner/dealer up front the gun didn't work or did you peddle a bad gun?

sounds to me like either two things was happening. #1, ur thumb was hitting the slide stop and u didn't realize it.. #2 or the rounds were hitting inside on the slide stop lever and engaging the slide stop prematuraly. either way we will never know NOW..

u could/should have let another shooter try your gun to see if he could duplicate the issues u were having, if so gun related, if not shooter related..

[TheTman]

Well Jocko, some folks don't want to give a gun a chance, either it's works right for them out of the box or it's a pos, and I think he was already soured on Kahrs from his first bad experience with his gun, so I don't think he was willing to give it much of a chance when he got it back. I wonder why he chose a Walther PPS, isn't that the one that has a really bad reputation for failures? Anyway best of luck to him, and hope he's happy with his Walther.

[Iron Worker]

Just maybe another 100 rnds and it would of been dependable ? I already fired 200 rnds through it. Don't tell me it was the WD 40 ,came back today saying they polished the slide stop and lubed it. Still basically same malfunction . Took the PPS out a couple hours ago. It was flawless.The Saga ends.

[TheTman]

Glad you're happy with the Walther. I can't say if more rounds would have made it dependable. I usually have someone else fire a pistol if I'm having problems with it to see if they have the same trouble. My CW40 was not dependable for me, until I learned how to shoot it. It shot fine for others. I was limp wristing it some and these little pistols seem to be very picky about they way they are held. After changing the way I held it, and shooting another couple hundred rounds, I got the hang of it and it is the pistol I carry most. In fact I bought the CW45 also just because I like .45's. It had some problems, and went back to Kahr, and has been totally reliable since I got it back. I guess a lot depends on if you believe in the Kahr system or not. As Jocko mentioned, it is very easy to bump the slide release and have the slide lock back. I'd like to have seen someone else fire the pistol and see if they had the same problems. Nothing against you, but sometimes we hold the gun wrong and don't realize it. My CW40 was my first tupperware pistol and I didn't realize how much they flex compared to a metal framed gun. I've shot 1911's, Beretta's, and others and never had a problem with this limp wrist thing, but the Kahr pointed it out in a hurry. Not saying you were limp wristing, but perhaps your hold on the pistol wasn't a good one for the Kahr. That we shall never know now, unless you try one at a range or something.
Kahrs aren't for everyone, so I'm happy you found something you like, no hard feelings from me. I wouldnt carry a gun I didn't have faith in.

[Iron Worker]

It was the first 2nd and 3rd rounds out of a full magazine that jammed,or failed to feed . Then it functioned correctly. If I just loaded 3 rnds in magazine it was fine. Why would it be sensitive to grasp with full clip but not a partial clip ? Any how its gone.

[TucsonMTB]

Yep! The way the Kahr magazine follower hits the magazine catch, causing a feeding failure on the 2nd or 3rd round is unfortunate. Someday, hopefully, Kahr will "get it" that a magazine follower that needs to sanded down to get past the magazine catch is a really stupid way to lose business. Oh well.

Ruger went through the same thing when they introduced their metal LCP magazine catch and at the same time made their magazine follower a little wider. I sanded my LCP follower, like we do to the Kahr followers. To their credit, based on the absence of forum messages about the issue . . . it seems like Ruger revised their follower design pretty quickly.

Maybe Kahr will figure it out some day . . .

[Too Tall Todd]

Sorry the Kahr didn't work out for you and for the heat that you took for the wd-40 however, that is a good segue-wayfor me to ask a lube question while everyone is still riled up. My brother gave me a bottle of Ballistol which he swears by. Doing some research I'm a little hesitant to use it on my primaries so I cleaned and lubed my Walther p-22 with it, I will post if there are any problems. Do any of you have any experience with ballistol good or bad? Thanks in advance for your help. T3

[jocko]

It was the first 2nd and 3rd rounds out of a full magazine that jammed,or failed to feed . Then it functioned correctly. If I just loaded 3 rnds in magazine it was fine. Why would it be sensitive to grasp with full clip but not a partial clip ? Any how its gone.

round 2/3 thing is the mag release button hitting the follower in that mag well opening and that happens on round 2/3. It is easily correctable if you go to the kahr prep section and hit on the propper prepping of ur new kahr.

IMO sure beats the hell out of sending it back to kahr over that little piddly thing. Now one can stomp his feet and rant and rave that he should not have to do this to make his gun right and I totaly agree and 95% don't have this issue but when it pops up. WE HAVE THE CURE FOR it and it might take 5 minutes. You can send that damn gun back to kahr and they might even miss what we are saying is happening. Ur the owner, u do what you want, we are here to assist IF YOU WANT THE HELP.


u can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink..

[Bawanna]

Where the heck did I leave that darn beating the dead horse smiley. Never can find it when I need it.

[TucsonMTB]

Where the heck did I leave that darn beating the dead horse smiley. Never can find it when I need it.
Maybe Jocko can arrange to have a dead horse head delivered to Kahr with magazine follower attached somehow? Yes, I realize it could be more the some guns have out of spec magazine catches, but the interference between the two and resulting failure to feed does appear to cost Kahr a customer from time to time. :rolleyes:

Hey, Jocko! Save your breath. He already got rid of the gun. ;)

[Bawanna]

Maybe Jocko can arrange to have a dead horse head delivered to Kahr with magazine follower attached somehow? Yes, I realize it could be more the some guns have out of spec magazine catches, but the interference between the two and resulting failure to feed does appear to cost Kahr a customer from time to time. :rolleyes:

Hey, Jocko! Save your breath. He already got rid of the gun. ;)

I'm told the "Family" refrains from the use of horse heads except for extreme warnings which this may very well be a case of. In a cost saving move they have resorted to sending fish heads.
I sent him about 100 or more from my vacation for his use to try and stay on the "Family's" good side but I apparently sent them to the wrong address.
I'm waiting to find out where they end up. It's been quite awhile and they have to be more than ripe by now.
Hope they don't end up at Dietrichs, he might sniff the package and get over excited.

[Rainman48314]

Yep! The way the Kahr magazine follower hits the magazine catch, causing a feeding failure on the 2nd or 3rd round is unfortunate. Someday, hopefully, Kahr will "get it" that a magazine follower that needs to sanded down to get past the magazine catch is a really stupid way to lose business. Oh well.

Ruger went through the same thing when they introduced their metal LCP magazine catch and at the same time made their magazine follower a little wider. I sanded my LCP follower, like we do to the Kahr followers. To their credit, based on the absence of forum messages about the issue . . . it seems like Ruger revised their follower design pretty quickly.

Maybe Kahr will figure it out some day . . .Eight years to figure it out and make a change..don't hold your breath.

[Rainman48314]

Just maybe another 100 rnds and it would of been dependable ? I already fired 200 rnds through it. Don't tell me it was the WD 40 ,came back today saying they polished the slide stop and lubed it. Still basically same malfunction . Took the PPS out a couple hours ago. It was flawless.The Saga ends.I shot a dealer's PPS and liked a lot about it. I ended up buying a full size M&P 9 since this was to be a nightstand gun. Enjoy it. Its still on my short list of "wanted"...after the Kimber Solo

[Rainman48314]

Sorry the Kahr didn't work out for you and for the heat that you took for the wd-40 however, that is a good segue-wayfor me to ask a lube question while everyone is still riled up. My brother gave me a bottle of Ballistol which he swears by. Doing some research I'm a little hesitant to use it on my primaries so I cleaned and lubed my Walther p-22 with it, I will post if there are any problems. Do any of you have any experience with ballistol good or bad? Thanks in advance for your help. T3Several folks I greatly respect swear by it.

[TucsonMTB]

I'm told the "Family" refrains from the use of horse heads except for extreme warnings which this may very well be a case of. In a cost saving move they have resorted to sending fish heads.
I sent him about 100 or more from my vacation for his use to try and stay on the "Family's" good side but I apparently sent them to the wrong address.
I'm waiting to find out where they end up. It's been quite awhile and they have to be more than ripe by now.
Hope they don't end up at Dietrichs, he might sniff the package and get over excited.
:D Too funny!

Sounds like Jocko understands the cost issues. Hey, if the follower molds aren't yet due for service . . . we have no chance. Plus, they will have to add metal to each cavity to achieve a fix. That is never popular with mold makers.

Good thing I have lots of sandpaper. Still . . . Pity about the new customers who expect perfection out of the box. :rolleyes:

[TucsonMTB]

Eight years to figure it out and make a change..don't hold your breath.
No worries! I have a nice collection of assorted grits of sandpaper. Still, the newer customers may not be quite so forgiving. Maybe it doesn't happen with a high enough percentage of pistols to matter.

[jocko]

PETA has put alot of pressure on us lately about the horse heads carcasses rotting all over the area, so last week 4 of the younger wanna be mafia kids. a gambino boy a giacoletto boy,and the cinotto twins went to coney island after they closed with a chain saw and they cut off 34 horse heads off the damn coney island carosel.

I do applogize for that but youngsters will be youngsters. blame it on PETA not our young Italian boys. Tradition dies hard u know. I would normally plead the 5th but we normally drink that to.