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bluerooster
08-09-2011, 01:46 PM
Yes or no? Im a shot placement guy. If you make them bleed, or stop their forward momentum, I have enough time to get me and the family out of there. I still would shoot mostly white box for break in/practice. But is the CM9 rated for +P?
BEARDOG
08-09-2011, 01:53 PM
Yes
http://www.kahr.com/faq.asp
SD976
08-09-2011, 01:58 PM
I asked that very question of our range officer. I carry a CM 9 off duty. He said yes, as long as you don't feed a steady diet of +P.
jocko
08-09-2011, 02:00 PM
u can shoot +P until the cows come home, if u can afford to do that. Uain't gonna hurt that gun PERIOLD.
Quickdraw
08-09-2011, 02:23 PM
u can shoot +P until the cows come home, if u can afford to do that. Uain't gonna hurt that gun PERIOLD.
+1 The CM is rated for +P. Say so in the manual.
bamaman
08-16-2011, 06:41 PM
+P is pretty much all I shoot in most of my 9's
Bill K
08-16-2011, 06:52 PM
Any of the name brands in 124 +P would put a rocket in your pocket. IF you decide you want something softer I'd recommend you try Black Hills 115 gr. EXP (extra pressure). Feeds and shoots great through my PM9.
Baaca
09-20-2011, 03:33 PM
Took my brand new CM9 out to the range today for the recommended break in. After about 215 rounds I ran some 124+P Gold Dot Short Barrel rounds through it. All I can say is that they were a handful. Very accurate / good grouping, but I think I will carry some standard pressure rounds in it. I don't think my wife would be able to have any degree of accuracy with those rounds should she have to use the CM9 in an emergency.
Bill K
09-20-2011, 03:42 PM
Took my brand new CM9 out to the range today for the recommended break in. After about 215 rounds I ran some 124+P Gold Dot Short Barrel rounds through it. All I can say is that they were a handful. Very accurate / good grouping, but I think I will carry some standard pressure rounds in it. I don't think my wife would be able to have any degree of accuracy with those rounds should she have to use the CM9 in an emergency.
Can I infer that you had no issues with your new CM9 otherwise you would have mentioned that you had issues?
What are some of the standard pressure rounds that you consider decent SD rounds?
Thanks...
jocko
09-20-2011, 04:01 PM
Took my brand new CM9 out to the range today for the recommended break in. After about 215 rounds I ran some 124+P Gold Dot Short Barrel rounds through it. All I can say is that they were a handful. Very accurate / good grouping, but I think I will carry some standard pressure rounds in it. I don't think my wife would be able to have any degree of accuracy with those rounds should she have to use the CM9 in an emergency.
Port it!!:phone:
JFootin
09-20-2011, 04:47 PM
Took my brand new CM9 out to the range today for the recommended break in. After about 215 rounds I ran some 124+P Gold Dot Short Barrel rounds through it. All I can say is that they were a handful. Very accurate / good grouping, but I think I will carry some standard pressure rounds in it. I don't think my wife would be able to have any degree of accuracy with those rounds should she have to use the CM9 in an emergency.
What are some of the standard pressure rounds that you consider decent SD rounds?
Thanks...
Hornady Critical Defense 115gr are easy shooters.
jmurch
09-20-2011, 04:56 PM
147jhp standard pressure in my mk9. I'm a penetration over velocity guy especially at 15 feet.
Ressom
09-20-2011, 06:04 PM
147jhp standard pressure in my mk9. I'm a penetration over velocity guy especially at 15 feet.
I've read (through poking around on the interweb) that the 147gr (non +p) is a good choice for short barrel guns. I'm no balistics expert, but it is something about the +p not being able to burn all the powder in the shorter barrel. I guess the "short barrel" version of the speer GD 124gr +p are supposed to combat this.
jocko
09-20-2011, 06:09 PM
so they say, less muzzle flash, so it either works or they are using a different buring powder, which is more of what I think is happening. IMO there is always going tobe some muzzle flash in handguns, certainly the shorter barrel would produce more flash..:third:
Baaca
09-20-2011, 08:30 PM
I think some Gold Dots in either 147 or 124 standard pressure (no +P) will be the carry round. I did have a few ftf where the front of the round "nose dived" so the the primer end of the cartridge held the slide back. It seemed that when I tapped the back of the mag against something so that the rounds were all the way against the back of the mag there was no problem. That, or my grip wasn't firm enough.
HadEmAll
09-21-2011, 01:03 AM
It seemed that when I tapped the back of the mag against something so that the rounds were all the way against the back of the mag there was no problem...............................
A good habit in any magazine of any type or caliber. I, along with other millions learned it in the military. Tap the back of that loaded magazine against the heel of your hand or your wrist every time.
Shark1007
11-19-2011, 09:29 PM
By force of habit, I still hit myself in the head with freshly loaded magazines. Since I haven't worn a helmet since I got out in 1975, this is a bad habit, but it does bring back memories and a sore head.
muggsy
12-31-2011, 05:50 PM
u can shoot +P until the cows come home, if u can afford to do that. Uain't gonna hurt that gun PERIOLD.
Jocko, just because a gun is rated for +P ammo doesn't mean that it isn't harder on the gun than standard pressure ammo. If you were to be shot by either at close range I doubt that you would notice any difference.
jocko
12-31-2011, 05:58 PM
probably right, just have never heard of a kahr being battered by +P ammo. probably like most other guns damn expensive ammo for just common range fodder so there fore the +P ammo is probalby not shot alot in any semi, although I do feel they can take what they advertise.
I can say without a doubt that in my 32K plus rounds of my pM9 that probably no more than 500 have been with +P ammo, just because of the cost factor as my PM9 is ported so I do not feel the extra recoil of +P ammo like others might. Not sure I can buy a 100 rounds of +P ammo for $20 like I can buy wwb at wal mart for and for paper punching why spend more.
JFootin
12-31-2011, 08:02 PM
These guns were DESIGNED to use +p ammo. Kahr doesn't caution users about how much +p ammo to use in their guns. Jocko is right about the cost factor, but he is also right that "Uain't gonna hurt that gun PERIOLD."
jocko
12-31-2011, 08:20 PM
and we have seen some chrono tests here to from many actualy that show very little velocity increase in so called +P ammo over conventional good brand ammo. Lots of add hype in many rounds and I guess if one round goes 1200 fps and another goes 1250 they could call theirs +P. alot of it is in the eyes of the beholder. Damn I watched a trace adkins documentary today and he is a aeal redneck, oil drilling rig man. Hell his wife shot him thorugh both lungs and right through the heart and the man lived beyond all doctors views that he was a dead man. He said today that if he had one thing he could take back was the comment when his wife was holding the gun on him that he told her he was going to take that gun away from her and beat her with it. Wrong thing to say. funny as hell when he talked about it. even, as he had said he had just put new carpeting down on the floor and didn't want to get blood on that new carpet for he know his wife would really be pissed. Imagaine that a hole thoroght the middle of his heart and through both lungs (one shot) and lived.
no he is not married to her anymore:third:
I do not know the CM9, but I use +p in the MK9 and the PM9 and I do not have any problems.
bandrich
01-26-2012, 08:26 AM
When I own a CM9 I will carry Hornady CD as I do in the other carry guns. ;)
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