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[incusus]

Greeting all, I ran across this place doing some pre-buy research on Kahr and it seems like a pretty good group. I ended up purchasing a CW45 for daily carry. It is not my first firearm. Looking forward to learning what I can and having some like minded folks to talk to.

Hello!

[Bawanna]

Welcome. You came to the right place.

When you got a minute could you define "like minded". I got mindless in my vocabulary but "like minded"? Hmm, maybe there's kool aid involved?

Glad you found us.

[TheTman]

Welcome incusus. I have a CW45 that is transitioning into my EDC in place of my CW40. It had some problems and had to go back to the mothership but has been flawless upon return. They had it back in my hands exactly 7 days from sending it in. EXCELLENT customer service in my opinion, and they did quite a bit of work to it.
The trigger wouldn't reset after a shot was fired was the reason it went back. I hope your's turns out flawless right out of the box as most Kahrs are. This site is loaded with storys of troubled guns, but this is the place to come for help if you need it so of course it's going to be full of problem stories.
In the Kahr Tech section of this forum, are a couple of sticky's by the very knowledgable Jocko. One is proper prep of the new Kahr prior to firing, and the other is the lube chart. You otta take a look at those before you visit the range. It might save some problems. Another thing, not sure if this is your first polymer frame gun or not, but they do not take well to limp wristing. If you have jams or failures to return to battery, make sure your wrist is firmly locked behind the gun, and also have someone else shoot it and see if they have problems.

Best of luck with your new Kahr! Hope it's a real jewel for you.

[jocko]

Welcome. You came to the right place.

When you got a minute could you define "like minded". I got mindless in my vocabulary but "like minded"? Hmm, maybe there's kool aid involved?

Glad you found us.

realize it is alittle deep for you bawanna:der:

[incusus]

Welcome. You came to the right place.

When you got a minute could you define "like minded". I got mindless in my vocabulary but "like minded"? Hmm, maybe there's kool aid involved?

Glad you found us.

Like minded... ok here's a story...

I drive an Isuzu Trooper 4x4. Looking for a group to wheel with and learn from, I hung out on a couple of local off road clubs forums and tried to be the friendly new guy. Group A generally shunned me because my vehicle was a roadworthy vehicle, rather than a high dollar, custom built, tube framed, trailer-me-to-the-trailhead single purpose buggy. So I hung with local Group B who shunned me because they were a Jeep group and had in inherent hatred of anything not made by that manufacturer. So I ended hanging out with a local Land Rover club who didnt care what I drove or why, but is much more interested in sharing knoledge, getting together to wrench on something, getting out on the trail, and occasionaly having a beer.

this strikes me as the latter sort of group :)

[incusus]

Welcome incusus. I have a CW45 that is transitioning into my EDC in place of my CW40. It had some problems and had to go back to the mothership but has been flawless upon return. They had it back in my hands exactly 7 days from sending it in. EXCELLENT customer service in my opinion, and they did quite a bit of work to it.
The trigger wouldn't reset after a shot was fired was the reason it went back. I hope your's turns out flawless right out of the box as most Kahrs are. This site is loaded with storys of troubled guns, but this is the place to come for help if you need it so of course it's going to be full of problem stories.
In the Kahr Tech section of this forum, are a couple of sticky's by the very knowledgable Jocko. One is proper prep of the new Kahr prior to firing, and the other is the lube chart. You otta take a look at those before you visit the range. It might save some problems. Another thing, not sure if this is your first polymer frame gun or not, but they do not take well to limp wristing. If you have jams or failures to return to battery, make sure your wrist is firmly locked behind the gun, and also have someone else shoot it and see if they have problems.

Best of luck with your new Kahr! Hope it's a real jewel for you.

Thanks for the input! I read alot of negative things people had to say originally about Kahrs elsewhere on the internet, and realized most of them were break-in issues or related to general ignorance. First thing I did when I got home was take it completely down, reclean it (yes it was brand new, but hey...) and lube it with some fresh hoppes and a few q-tips. I put 100 rounds through it that day and only had 1 FTE (winchester white box). The only issue I had besides that was not getting the first round to chanber, and that was simply because I wasnt used to the spring (man, that things serious!) and probably didnt rack the slide far enough back. Its was as accurate as I can hope for a short barrel, as good or better than I shoot my Beretta with a 5 1/4 barrel at 25'.

Its my first poly framed gun, and I was anticipating some serious recoil over my 92F so I was hanging on nice and firm and had no problems.

I plan on running as much ammo through it as I can before it gets carried. I take my Ohio class in a couple of weeks, so I will see if we can feed 500 flawlessly by then. I think once this spring settles in and I get used to it in general its going to be great.

[jocko]

u might want to visit the kahr tech section and hit on two great sticky's that should be of help to you.

#1 kahr lube chart

#2 propper prepping of ur new kahr.

welcome aboard.. good people here.

[OldLincoln]

You nailed it incusus, we are a Land Rover type place and don't need no stinkin roads either! I hope I'm not prying but I am curious about your handle. It's close to something to do with the inner ear and dozen other meanings like hammered, excitable... hey!! are you related to Bawanna??!

[Barth]

are you related to Bawanna??!

http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/144163-deliverance.jpg

[MrToad]

Welcome incusus from a fellow Ohioan!

Having had to do a few years of off-roading as part of my job fresh out of college, the skills and knowledge of the off-roader is more important than what they drive. Of course, that applies to most things in life.:)

[incusus]

You nailed it incusus, we are a Land Rover type place and don't need no stinkin roads either! I hope I'm not prying but I am curious about your handle. It's close to something to do with the inner ear and dozen other meanings like hammered, excitable... hey!! are you related to Bawanna??!

its an oooold gaming name that evolved to a general use internet handle when I started online a long time ago ;) from the latin roughly meaning forged or hammered, it the other meaning of "forged" made it sort of tongue-in-cheek since on one online in these forums using their real name anyway...


Mr. Toad, the first thing I thought of when I saw your icon and your comment on driving off road was "Mr Toads wild ride"... I'm in southwest Ohio, are you in that same area by any chance?

[Barth]

its an oooold gaming name that evolved to a general use internet handle when I started online a long time ago ;) from the latin roughly meaning forged or hammered, it the other meaning of "forged" made it sort of tongue-in-cheek since on one online in these forums using their real name anyway...


Mr. Toad, the first thing I thought of when I saw your icon and your comment on driving off road was "Mr Toads wild ride"... I'm in southwest Ohio, are you in that same area by any chance?

Barth is my real name.
I'm so out of the loopy on these things.
I used to date a stripper and she actually used her real name as her stage name. She couldn't deal with fake names...

[incusus]

I think a real name would be the perfect cover for a stripper. No one would beleive it...

[MrToad]

Mr. Toad, the first thing I thought of when I saw your icon and your comment on driving off road was "Mr Toads wild ride"... I'm in southwest Ohio, are you in that same area by any chance?Yep, that's my neck of the woods too. And yes, Wind in the Willows was the inspiration for my avatar.:D

[incusus]

Yep, that's my neck of the woods too. And yes, Wind in the Willows was the inspiration for my avatar.:D

hah! I read that to my daughter every night when she was younger. she kayaks and thinks its funny I call her a water rat.

PM on its way to you, by the way.

[JFootin]

Welcome incusus. I have a CW45 that is transitioning into my EDC in place of my CW40. It had some problems and had to go back to the mothership but has been flawless upon return. They had it back in my hands exactly 7 days from sending it in. EXCELLENT customer service in my opinion, and they did quite a bit of work to it.
The trigger wouldn't reset after a shot was fired was the reason it went back. I hope your's turns out flawless right out of the box as most Kahrs are. This site is loaded with storys of troubled guns, but this is the place to come for help if you need it so of course it's going to be full of problem stories.
In the Kahr Tech section of this forum, are a couple of sticky's by the very knowledgable Jocko. One is proper prep of the new Kahr prior to firing, and the other is the lube chart. You otta take a look at those before you visit the range. It might save some problems. Another thing, not sure if this is your first polymer frame gun or not, but they do not take well to limp wristing. If you have jams or failures to return to battery, make sure your wrist is firmly locked behind the gun, and also have someone else shoot it and see if they have problems.

Best of luck with your new Kahr! Hope it's a real jewel for you.

Before I bought my CM9, I watched several YouTube gun reviews where they did limp wrist tests, standing sideways holding the gun loosely between thumb and fingers and firing it, all without a failure. I never did see a review where they purposely limp wristed it and got a failure. So what gives? I'm sure those guys know how to clean and lube a gun really well before filming their reviews, but why didn't they experience any of the problems that so many people on this site attribute to limp wristing?

[Jeremiah/Az]

I have purposely tried to limpwrist my PM9 & I cannot make it malfunction that way. YMMV

[jocko]

u know I have triedf to limp all my guns and it seems when one tries, he cannot do it, not sure how a person really knows if he is limping a gun, other than if one has issues and another shooter with your gun has none. We tend IMO to over use that word alot to as a catch all for issues. We know it happens though but I think it is the blame for other things to, course IMO a gun and a shooter have to mate up perfectly to make that bang thing happen. I remember one time 5 or 6 years ago talking to a kel teck tech and he stated that over 50% of all their returned guns, THERE WAS NOT ONE THING WRONG WITH THEM. It was shooter error, but like he said how do you tell a person that to, so many times they would put some dribble dwown on the worksheet of what they did but really didn't do and it please most owners. Psychology goes a long way sometimes. As u well kow we shooters are never at fault. I know it is my PM9 that is not shooting where I aim, as it just cannot be me!!!!!

[wyntrout]

I shoot with a loose grip and really try sometimes to "limp wrist", but all of my guns are now all-aspect shooters... which is a good thing. In a real "combat" situation, you won't have time to do all of the "right" things, and if your EDC can't perform with any grip, you may only have one shot... literally!

My PM45 started out real forgiving in grip, but after a few trips back to Kahr, it got so I couldn't avoid FTF no matter how much I concentrated on NOT "Limp Wristing". After the fourth visit to Kahr CS and a new frame, it was back to shooting however badly I tried to hold it... really loose and any one hand, which is great for an EDC. I want it to shoot and continue to do so no matter how I'm holding the gun. In hand-to-hand encounters, or close combat, you won't have time to be fancy and you may be using one hand to keep an attacker at bay... and may be using your weak hand to shoot the pistol from an awkward position.
If your EDC requires a two-handed perfect brace or stance, that's NOT a good thing.

If you'll remember how the British and Hessians fought us in the Revolutionary War, they stood in straight lines while we quickly adapted the Indian tactic of seeking and firing from cover... or trying to present the smallest target possible to the enemy.

When you're fighting for your LIFE, there are no dirty tricks or cheating... second place SUCKS. :eek: Winning is the ONLY option, and by any means if it's in protection of your life or your loved ones.

:blah:

Wynn:)

[Dietrich]

Greeting all, I ran across this place doing some pre-buy research on Kahr and it seems like a pretty good group. I ended up purchasing a CW45 for daily carry. It is not my first firearm. Looking forward to learning what I can and having some like minded folks to talk to.

Hello!
Hello incusus and welcome to the forum.You seem to be a nice fellow with a reasonably high level of intelligence.Now that you have joined us,we will try to change that.Take no notice if you suddenly start to drool.It`s normble here.

[Barth]

Hello incusus and welcome to the forum.You seem to be a nice fellow with a reasonably high level of intelligence.Now that you have joined us,we will try to change that.Take no notice if you suddenly start to drool.It`s normble here.

Oh man,
The guy just got here – LOL!

[JFootin]

I shoot with a loose grip and really try sometimes to "limp wrist", but all of my guns are now all-aspect shooters... which is a good thing. In a real "combat" situation, you won't have time to do all of the "right" things, and if your EDC can't perform with any grip, you may only have one shot... literally!

My PM45 started out real forgiving in grip, but after a few trips back to Kahr, it got so I couldn't avoid FTF no matter how much I concentrated on NOT "Limp Wristing". After the fourth visit to Kahr CS and a new frame, it was back to shooting however badly I tried to hold it... really loose and any one hand, which is great for an EDC. I want it to shoot and continue to do so no matter how I'm holding the gun. In hand-to-hand encounters, or close combat, you won't have time to be fancy and you may be using one hand to keep an attacker at bay... and may be using your weak hand to shoot the pistol from an awkward position.
If your EDC requires a two-handed perfect brace or stance, that's NOT a good thing.

If you'll remember how the British and Hessians fought us in the Revolutionary War, they stood in straight lines while we quickly adapted the Indian tactic of seeking and firing from cover... or trying to present the smallest target possible to the enemy.

When you're fighting for your LIFE, there are no dirty tricks or cheating... second place SUCKS. :eek: Winning is the ONLY option, and by any means if it's in protection of your life or your loved ones.

:blah:

Wynn:)

Amen, brother Wynn! My feelings exactly. The successful limp wrist demonstrations were part of what sold me on the CM9 and kahrs in general. I have partially paralyzed wrists and hands, so I don't want a gun that requires a shooter with Popeye forearms and a grip like a steel vise. I want to be able to hold the gun comfortably, like it is part of me, and it to go BANG every time I pull the trigger. Period. End of story. Should I expect anything less out of my firearm?

[nmkahrshooter]

Welcome from New Mexico