Warranty?

[sleestack]

before I buy I thought I would throw this Q out, After the 5 years warranty is expired, will kahr still stand behind their products and fix the weapon, like Glock and SIG? or are you SOL and have to pay for all repairs after 5 years?

[O'Dell]

Can't say that I have needed the Kahr warranty yet, but it's my feeling that Kahr will take care of you if the pistol is not abused. If my CW9 hadn't been stolen last year it would be beyond the five year limit with me, but wherever it is, I sure it's still running well. Anyway, at my age, I don't worry about things five years in the future. :rolleyes:

[jocko]

before I buy I thought I would throw this Q out, After the 5 years warranty is expired, will kahr still stand behind their products and fix the weapon, like Glock and SIG? or are you SOL and have to pay for all repairs after 5 years?

depends on what Odell stated. If the barrel breaks in half or the lower section breaks I would assume kahr would work with you, break a trigger or have a defective trigger bar after 5 years etc, and assume ur gonna pay something, More than likely ur gonna pay to send it back and to get it back. Kahr will not kick u to the curb after 5 years....
damage the gun through abuse even in the 5 years expect to pay. MY PM9 with over 32,000 rounds through it other thaqn the serial umber which gives its age away. they coul dnot tell it had had 500 rounds let alone 32K. So takie care of the gun and it will take care of you. Glock or Sig might do the same I would think after 5years your gonna pay to ship it back for sure, once in the repair center they will then determine if the gun deserves further warranty service. Lifetime for some products means "you get it to us on ur dime and we will take care of it". Which in us gun owners case about $50

[sleestack]

What i am trying to find out is this, many manufacturers will give a limited warranty in writing however, in order to keep themselves out of court etc... in practice the warranty is lifetime. Most also will pay for shipping both ways.

[harrydog]

It has always bothered me that Kahr switched from a lifetime to a 5 year warranty. The only reason I can think of that they would do that is that it was costing them too much to honor the lifetime warranties. It didn't stop me from buying a PM9 and probably won't stop me from buying another Kahr in the future, but I don't like it.

[wayneo1]

It does make you wonder when a manufacturer changes their length of warrenty. Probably some legal reason. I am with harrydog +1

[sleestack]

before I drop $600 on an PM9 I would like to be sure kahr will stand behind it in 6 years if for instance the slide catch breaks or extractor has trouble. From what I am reading, it looks like Kahr pretty much strictly adheres to their written warranty. so if you buy a used kahr and have trouble you are sol and be prepared to pony up the cash

my experience with other mans. is that if there is trouble they will fix it, new or used and usually on their dime. Although the weapons are the right size, their cost combined with their uneven quality along with their warranty policy throws up multiple red flags for me and I will have to pass. The Kimber solo looks sweet and Beretta is about to release a sub 9 similar to pm9 Thanks for the info.

[ltxi]

My experience with Kahr is that they will make you whole if the problem is their fault. Wear issues six years down the road I would assume to be yours to deal with. Much like your car...would you expect GM/Honda/Toyota to replace your tires or brakes after they wear out?

[sleestack]

the automotive industry standard is apparently much like Kahrs policy, however the firearms industry standard is not like Kahrs. Other mans. will r/r wear issues free of charge.

[steve24]

Even Keltec has a lifetime warranty, and Glock will replace any defective part on their guns for life even though its not in their written warranty.

[wyntrout]

I considered the AO 1911's but the ONE-YEAR warranty really puts me off!

I kind of like the Thompson 1911TC, but it also has a ONE-YEAR warranty.

The Ruger SR1911 is another possibility and they don't say exactly what their warranty is, either:

WHY NO WARRANTY CARD HAS BEEN PACKED WITH THIS NEW RUGER FIREARM
The Magnuson-Moss Act (Public Law 93-637) does not require any
seller or manufacturer of a consumer product to give a written
warranty. It does provide that if a written warranty is given, it must be
designated as “limited” or as “full” and sets minimum standards for a
“full” warranty. Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc. has elected not to
provide any written warranty, either “limited” or “full”, rather than to
attempt to comply with the provisions of the Magnuson-Moss Act and
the regulations issued thereunder. There are certain implied
warranties under state law with respect to sales of consumer goods. As
the extent and interpretation of these implied warranties varies from
state to state, you should refer to your state statutes. Sturm, Ruger &
Company wishes to assure its customers of its continued interest in
providing service to owners of Ruger firearms.

Whatever that means.:confused:

It's really a downer that warranties from these major companies don't give you any warm, fuzzy feelings if something does go wrong with one of your favorite toys!

Wynn:(

[ltxi]

the automotive industry standard is apparently much like Kahrs policy, however the firearms industry standard is not like Kahrs. Other mans. will r/r wear issues free of charge.

I've heard and seen some will will replace wear items if prodded, or even if not. Personally, I've never felt comfortable with that.

[sleestack]

That is the point I am trying to make, the industry standard seems to be as you states steve24. I have read Kahr owners do not enjoy that same level of warranty past the five year warranty period. Is this the case? what is your experience with Kahr warranty coverage past five years? do they stand behind their products or not?

[jocko]

certainlyt we don't think the industry should offer a life time warranty??/, Why shjoulkd they replace worn parts after 5 years?,I really donh't know of any9one ever shooting out ANY gun, so normal replacement of some parts is probalby necessary to a shooter who shoots thousands of rounds a year. We 95% are not even in that classification, so why worry about something that will never effect you or I.

If kahr now issues a 5 year wareratny and u shoot it and a part fails, they will take care of it. not sure they will pick up the return tag every time, I have never read anywhere that they have said they will do that, or are obligated to dol that. Most companies whent he product is new will pay both ways but after a few years, not sure how each company addresses it.

GM gives bumnper to bumper warranty for 100K iles but if ur car breaks down on the road don't expect tyhem to come and pick it up on their dime.,

I just thing we worry to much about nothing. I have been on this forum from the beginning and I might have missed a few posts but Ihave not read where a person sent his gun back after 5 years even and was charged for the service. Postage I am sure is on theowner but WTF, live with it or go buy another.

Most can recall the Grendallby george kelgreen (owner of kt). It carried a lifetime warranty. oh, thats right he filed bankruptcy back then, nice warranty now. One bestr think of the quality and reputation of the company offering ant type of warranty. It is only as good as the paper it is written on and in the gtrendall era, that was not worth much.

If Smith or Glock wants to take care of them for life, kmudoos to both.erriously doubt 10 years from now that they will pick up the shipping tab, but again if they do it might just be agood reason to buy their poroduct,

My opinion, buyt what you want, and shoot the damn thing like u stole it. 95% of all the gunsout there today will shoot longer than most owners can afford..

That Ruger "warranty" is written in such a way, that it totally sublect to interpretation THEIRS:behindsofa:

but I have never know Ruger to squeal about doing what is right either, ...

[steve24]

My new CM9 is my first Kahr firearm, so fortunately, I haven't had to use my warranty. Hopefully though if I ever need it, they would be like Glock and fix whatever problem that I may have no matter if it is past the 5 year time limit.

[les strat]

That Ruger "warranty" is written in such a way, that it totally sublect to interpretation THEIRS:behindsofa:

but I have never know Ruger to squeal about doing what is right either, ...

Me either. They have about the best customer service IMO.

[hdsteve69]

Look at it this way when the 5 years is up sell it and buy another new kahr,cause who doesnt like buying a new gun.

[Jeremiah/Az]

I bought a Ruger Red Label shotgun new. 10 years later the stock cracked. Ruger replace it with a nice piece of wood @ no charge & paid shipping both ways. :D