Anybody out there listening?

[OldLincoln]

Anybody out there listening?

"America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She well knows that by one enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners on foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom." - John Quincy Adams (1821)

[OldLincoln]

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I traveled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." - Benjamin Franklin

[OldLincoln]

“Here’s my credo. There are no good guns, there are no bad guns. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a good man is no threat to anyone, except bad people.” – Charlton Heston

[OldLincoln]

"They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they would be the sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please.... Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect." -Thomas Jefferson, Opinion on National Bank, 1791

[Dietrich]

I`m listening.I`ve been listening since history classes in school.Of course,that was before the revisionists decided to rewrite it in an attempt to justify their own socialist beliefs.

[jlottmc]

What he said^^^^^^.

[wayneo1]

As always right on and Dietrich you sir hit the nail on the head.

[MrToad]

I`m listening.I`ve been listening since history classes in school.Of course,that was before the revisionists decided to rewrite it in an attempt to justify their own socialist beliefs.Sad how times change. There was a time when the history I learned in school was about the greatness of our nation, our trials and tribulations and the notion that we could continually better ourselves. What I took away from those lessons wasn't about race, gender identity, religion, or any special group, or really even Americans themselves, but rather how humanity itself could show its best facets.

I think the other problem is that history is departing from studying the politics of the past and focusing instead on social issues of the past.

Great minds talk of ideas; lesser minds gossip about people.

[Bill K]

I'm 67 years old. I growing up I lived in NYC public housing projects. Lilian Walds on the lower east side and later Woodside projects in Queens. I can remember the post man opening up the ganged door for placing mail into the individual apartment boxes. Many of these boxes were labeled with multiple family names yet having only one family living in the apartment. Reason? So that multiple welfare checks could be received by the single family.

I think we're all eager maybe even happy to help those really in need but resent those stealing from us by ripping off the many tax supported (or charity supported) support programs.

[Bawanna]

It's about time to once again ask not what Kahrtalk can do for you, but what you can do for kahrtalk!

Well insert America for Kahrtalk and the message will make good sense.

We absolutely gotta turn this freeloading around, and start at the very top and take his freeloading wife and big ugly dog with him.

Gotta go for a bit, we're having a class today on how to express how we really feel about stuff. I'll try to pay close attention..lord knows I can use it.

[bigmacque]

I think our Foreign Policy should become a much simpler stance:
1. We will not go looking for a fight, anywhere.
2. If you come looking for a fight with us, we'll encourage you to go elsewhere.
3. If you start a fight with us, we will end it quickly.
4. If you ask us to help you in your fight, we will only do so with the help of all of our and your allies.

[jocko]

well said, sad the powers tobe don't understand this though.

[TheTman]

I wish we'd find a way to get out of Afghanistan. That country has NEVER been conquered by an invading army in thousands of years. Too many nook and crannies for the locals to hide out in, or they scurry across the border to Pakistan. The Soviets couldn't do it and they share borders with them, what makes us think we are going to have any lasting impact there? Makes me wonder if the Russians are laughing their butts off at us being there. We can contol the cities to some extent but will never control the mountains. Iraq is a different story, I think many of the people were ready for change as they are in some of the other mid east countries. But Afghanistan is a whole different country. The Taliban doesn't fight fair, you deal with Americans and you die if you live in the hills. We should never have got involvd when the Soviets were there, maybe it would still be there problem. But no, we had to go and arm the people that we are fighting today and help them drive the Soviets out. Another example of sticking our nose where it didn't belong.
I have much respect for our young people serving there. It's a very dangerous job.
I wish we could figure out something and bring them home safe,

[Bawanna]

Simple solution in 2 words.

B-52

Wynn could navigate for old times sake.

[OldLincoln]

Afghanistan is an impossible windmill to fundamentally change. Much ado was made over opening schools and girls beginning their education which was good, but... it cannot possibly continue after we are gone. It reminds me of a bucket of water. Put your hand in it and the bucket content is changed. Remove your hand and it very quickly returns to it's former state. We withdrew from an area not too long ago and the Taliban immediately moved back in. Guess what will happen to the next area we move out of.

We dropped them like a hot rock after Russia was kicked out, now we will do it again in the next several months. It's incredulous to think we can change a nation that's lived under tribal leadership for several hundred years to a full democracy in a decade or two. Ain't gonna happen.

Obama wanted to change the leadership of Syria, Egypt and Libya to Muslim Brotherhood and he accomplished that along with his local Socialistic programs. But what will happen once he leaves?

Will the next several presidents blame him (rightfully) for all the world's ills? I hope not. Lets just learn and move on. Drill our own oil and gas, spend our money at home, restart manufacturing, build deadly border fences, fix the education system, restore personal liberty, pass tort reform, and focus on the USA instead of a "one world system".

[Bill K]

It's about time to once again ask not what Kahrtalk can do for you, but what you can do for kahrtalk!

Well insert America for Kahrtalk and the message will make good sense.

We absolutely gotta turn this freeloading around, and start at the very top and take his freeloading wife and big ugly dog with him.

Gotta go for a bit, we're having a class today on how to express how we really feel about stuff. I'll try to pay close attention..lord knows I can use it.

SHAME ON YOU BAWANNA!!!! The dog is not ugly! :)