Newbie to Kahr & KahrTalk

[sierrajb]

Hey, All! Just joined the forum and excited to get to meet all the Kahr experts here. A friend heard I had been searching for the perfect CCW for months, and I was about to purchase a Kel-tec P11. He invited me to join him at the shooting range the next day to shoot some of his favorites. He brought a whole arsenal of pistols for me to enjoy shooting: Glock, Kimber Solo, Kimber 1911, Sig 238, Kahr PM9 (Brand New), and others I can't remember. I brought my Ruger SP101 (38 special only) to try out my new Hogue grips.

After shooting all the pistols several times, I seemed to "bond" most with the PM9. He asked, "Do you like that one?" I said, "Yes, quite a bit." Then he said, "It's YOURS!" I was totally stunned. He refused to take any money, and insisted it was a personal gift to me. WOW!

So...less than one week and 100 rounds later, I found this site. Hope I can return the favor of gaining from all your wisdom as you deal with my newbie questions and issues. Thanks ahead of time!

[HeyGuysWatchThis]

Wow, that IS a pretty amazing gift. Congrats and enjoy the new gun.

[espresso]

Welcome and WOW....what a friend! Lots of great people and info here.

[TucsonMTB]

Awesome! I owned a P-11 several years ago. It was OK, but certainly not great. I think your post probably falls into the "friends don't let friends buy Kel-Tecs" category. ;)

Congratulations! and Welcome to the forum.

[OldLincoln]

Welcome to the Forum!!

Be sure to spend a lot of time in the Kahr-Tech Forum (http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27). Thgere are a lot of excellent tips and guides there. Kahrs are a bit tighter, etc than some so be sure to go through the cleaning threads and lube diagram.

Since you have a friend with Kahr experience he can advise you if you have issues but don't hesitate to ask here. We love success stories and strive to make all stories happy ones.

[sierrajb]

Awesome! I owned a P-11 several years ago. It was OK, but certainly not great. I think your post probably falls into the "friends don't let friends buy Kel-Tecs" category. ;)

Congratulations! and Welcome to the forum.

Ha! In fact, he told me he'd do anything to keep me from buying a Kel-Tec. Guess it worked! Thanks for the welcome!

[sierrajb]

Welcome to the Forum!!

Be sure to spend a lot of time in the Kahr-Tech Forum (http://kahrtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=27). Thgere are a lot of excellent tips and guides there. Kahrs are a bit tighter, etc than some so be sure to go through the cleaning threads and lube diagram.

Since you have a friend with Kahr experience he can advise you if you have issues but don't hesitate to ask here. We love success stories and strive to make all stories happy ones.

Thanks, OldLincoln! From what I've read already on this forum tonight, I'll be spending as much time as I can to get a good education on Kahrs. I will tell you, some of the videos and other forums I've seen and read regarding the special loading procedure for the PM9 has "scared" me at first. However, I don't think it's that big of a deal to have to load with the release switch vs. the standard "slingshot" approach. I'm sure there's TONS of info on that issue somewhere on this forum, but I'll be sure to find and read it all.

[sierrajb]

HeyGuysWatchThis and espresso,
Thanks for the warm welcome! I'm jumping in with both feet. May go out tomorrow for some shooting, but not sure how the Labor Day crowd will be. Will let you all know.

[beatlesfan]

Welcome to the forum. I'm very new here as well. All the people on here are very nice and will genuinely help you with any problems no matter how dumb you think the question is. These guys are very nice people, so don't be afraid to ask for help.

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[sierrajb]

Welcome to the forum. I'm very new here as well. All the people on here are very nice and will genuinely help you with any problems no matter how dumb you think the question is. These guys are very nice people, so don't be afraid to ask for help.

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Thanks for the welcome! Same to you! I agree, this forum has already taught me so much, and it's my first night as a member. Will do more searching and reading tomorrow. Gotta hit the sack!

[Dietrich]

Glad to have you here.Let us know how things go at the range.

[apdturbo]

damn thats a nice friend! is the gun still in his name or did i miss that part?

[hoghunter]

I wish Firearm Santa Claus would come to my town.

[yqtszhj]

Welcome. I need a friend like that.

Keep that PM9 cleaned and lubed and the only issue you will likely have to ask about is what holster you want to get. You are going to like that gun.

[sierrajb]

damn thats a nice friend! is the gun still in his name or did i miss that part?

Not sure about that. The original owners manual (unopened) was still in the package & case. Opened the package to find the warranty card was never filled in. Just in case, I went online and filled in the warranty info in MY NAME. Do you think that will work if I need some repairs or adjustments?

[sierrajb]

Welcome. I need a friend like that.

Keep that PM9 cleaned and lubed and the only issue you will likely have to ask about is what holster you want to get. You are going to like that gun.

Yep! Read all the posts about the need to keep it cleaned and lubed. I used Remington's Rem Oil everywhere I could see that is a movable part. Forgot to tell you, but my buddy also gave me a new holster for my PM9. It's a black Tagua OWB. A bit tight, especially around the slide release, but very nice.

[sierrajb]

Glad to have you here.Let us know how things go at the range.

Thanks, Dietrich! I've been to the range 2 other times since the first time with my friend. Still need a little work on my trigger finger. I have a newbie tendency to "flinch" and shoot a little low and to the left (I'm right handed). I'll let you know.

[TucsonMTB]

Do you think that will work if I need some repairs or adjustments?
Yep! If you need to call, tell them the serial number and that you bought it new. You will be treated well. :)

[sierrajb]

The warranty card asked where I purchased the gun, and I listed it as "a gift" and added that I did not know where the gun was purchased. Hopefully, that will be sufficient. I've heard good and bad things about Kahr's service, but MOSTLY good to "excellent."

I was surprised to hear (and read) that Kahr's warranty was only 5 years instead of lifetime, like the Kel-Tec I was originally shopping for. Did that surprise anyone else here on the forum?

[TucsonMTB]

The five year warranty is pretty much old news by now. Kahr still covers guns purchased with a lifetime warranty for their lifetime. Guns purchased since their policy change are, of course, only warranted for five years.

It's not an issue, so far as I can tell, but then . . . I am not a long time Kahr owner, so you may hear some additional opinions expressed. ;)

This is after all KahrTalk where people speak their mind freely.

[HeyGuysWatchThis]

Try this target (http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/DIAGNOSE.PDF) the next time you're out. It should help if you're doing something consistently. I tend to be kinda all over the place so...

Thanks, Dietrich! I've been to the range 2 other times since the first time with my friend. Still need a little work on my trigger finger. I have a newbie tendency to "flinch" and shoot a little low and to the left (I'm right handed). I'll let you know.

[jdlott74]

Welcome Sierrajp. Glad to see another DFW person on here. My husband, jlottmc and I live in Plano. Which range do you go to? When we lived in Arlington, we frequented The Shooter's Club.

[TomMc]

Lots of us here from DFW!

[sierrajb]

I live in Ft. Worth, but work in Arlington. I've only been to two places so far: Winchester (820 & Lancaster, $13 indoor) and Alpine (Burleson, Mansfield, $10 outdoor). I just discovered the Shooters Club, so I may try that out next. What's it like there, indoor or outdoor? Pricey? Glad to meet some metro family here on the forum!

[Markis82]

Try this target (http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/DIAGNOSE.PDF) the next time you're out. It should help if you're doing something consistently. I tend to be kinda all over the place so...
+1 That target is a fantastic tool. I used one similar when I was learning how to shoot. I also still use it from time to time to sharpen my skills.

[sierrajb]

Just printed that target off. Question: How far away should I post this chart for shooting. It seems very small. Should I already be that good? Or, should I try to enlarge this chart? Looks VERY helpful. Thanks, HeyGuys...

[Bawanna]

Just printed that target off. Question: How far away should I post this chart for shooting. It seems very small. Should I already be that good? Or, should I try to enlarge this chart? Looks VERY helpful. Thanks, HeyGuys...

I'd just use your regular full size target and use that target as a guideline. Low left is low left, Low right etc. Shooting low, shooting high, whatever your doing. The target will tell you probable causes.

[TucsonMTB]

Just printed that target off. Question: How far away should I post this chart for shooting. It seems very small. Should I already be that good? Or, should I try to enlarge this chart? Looks VERY helpful. Thanks, HeyGuys...
It printed out as a letter sized document (8.5 x 11 inches) for me. That certainly makes it large enough for 7 yards or more. YMMV

Edited to add: Even though you could shoot at this target, Bawanna nailed it when he suggested that it is really intended to be a guide to analyzing your regular target, rather than something to shoot at.

[jlottmc]

Shooter's club is ok now. It used to be a lot better. It's indoor, you pay I think $15 for a lifetime membership, and then a range fee when you go (pretty reasonable at like $7 ish for two hours and buck or two per hour after that) it does get hot, and only goes out to 25 yards. They used to have better staff, but I haven't been in there in some time.
Welcome to the asylum.

[sierrajb]

I'd just use your regular full size target and use that target as a guideline. Low left is low left, Low right etc. Shooting low, shooting high, whatever your doing. The target will tell you probable causes.

Thanks, Bawanna! I'll use that this afternoon after work. I'll be shooting my PM9 and Ruger SP101. I'll let you know how it goes.

[QUOTE=TucsonMTB;93721]It printed out as a letter sized document (8.5 x 11 inches) for me. That certainly makes it large enough for 7 yards or more. YMMV

Yea, that's what I thought, too. I still may shoot it up just for funsies, then print another copy.

[QUOTE=jlottmc;93744]Shooter's club is ok now. It used to be a lot better. It's indoor, you pay I think $15 for a lifetime membership, and then a range fee when you go (pretty reasonable at like $7 ish for two hours and buck or two per hour after that) it does get hot, and only goes out to 25 yards. They used to have better staff, but I haven't been in there in some time.

I wonder what the $15 membership covers? Is the club too exclusive to allow walk-ins? Seven bucks seems a bit cheap. Hopefully, they didn't hike the prices since you've been there last. I may check it out soon. Today, I'll be heading out to Alpine outdoor range. Still trying to break in that new PM9. Thanks for the info on Shooter's Club!

[sierrajb]

Hmmm, that last post didn't show up like I thought it would. I clicked on "multiple quotes", but it only printed out the first quote like I thought it would all quotes. Oh well....now you guys know I'm a rookie on the forum as well as out on the range.

[wyntrout]

Dang! That sounds like the place I used to shoot skeet while I was at Carswell AFB on one of my many lengthy training TDYs there from Abilene... training in the "aluminum overcast", or BUFF.

The day I first arrived at Carswell was memorable because I was coming from Sacramento(March 1974)... Mather AFB, and had ALL of my guns and reloading components in the trunk! Wouldn't you know that I got picked for a "random" vehicle check!?? How embarrassing when they opened the trunk! They were awestruck, but at least they didn't have to call Homeland Security and take me into custody!
I did have to put my guns... just the pistols(??) in the armory. I don't remember about the powder and primers.:D
Down here, all of the Navy Bases have signs saying deadly weapons are prohibited and subject to CONFISCATION! :eek:
Hurlburt Field, where all of the Special Ops aircraft are stationed, had no such warnings! I had worried about that when we visited our nephew there earlier this year. "Don't ask, don't tell".
Ramble....

Wynn:)

[TucsonMTB]

Yeah, I was expected to store my shotgun in the armory at Fort Sill while stationed there. No big deal. It was expected that we would draw the weapon on Friday and keep it in our automobile trunk until a convenient time to return it storage. I ended up building a really neat wooden case for it that I still have. It would probably have survived in rear end collision in that case. :D

[TucsonMTB]

Hmmm, that last post didn't show up like I thought it would. I clicked on "multiple quotes", but it only printed out the first quote like I thought it would all quotes. Oh well....now you guys know I'm a rookie on the forum as well as out on the range.
No biggie! Next time just add the close quote code "[ / QUOTE ]" (shown with extra spaces so it will display) by hand at the end of each quote. :D

You could even edit your message now as an experiment, if you like.

[sierrajb]

Okay. How and exactly where would I add the close quote code? I thought that was automatic when I hit the "Quote" button or the "MQ" button for multiple quotes. Sorry I'm a doofus...

[Bawanna]

Okay. How and exactly where would I add the close quote code? I thought that was automatic when I hit the "Quote" button or the "MQ" button for multiple quotes. Sorry I'm a doofus...

Au contraire weed hopper. I'm the doofus around here. You'll have to create another position.

[sierrajb]

Au contraire weed hopper. I'm the doofus around here. You'll have to create another position.

Sorry, Masta Bawanna....call me Doofus, Jr.:19:

[TucsonMTB]

Actually, neither of you are intellectually challenged. Computers are a black art. The close quote code goes after the last word in the quote.

Try replying with a quote to this message. Then type or copy the same characters including the "[ ]'s" that appear at the beginning of the quote in front of one of the paragraphs in the quote. At the same time type or copy the characters from the end of the quote at the end of the paragraph before the one where you added the characters to the front.

The codes work in pairs. You need one to start the quote and a second to end it, otherwise the quote just shows up as text.

Sorry about the poor explanation. :o

[Bawanna]

Actually, neither of you are intellectually challenged. "[Computers are a black art.]" The close quote code goes after the last word in the quote.

"[Try replying with a quote to this message. Then type or copy the same characters including the "[ ]'s" that appear at the beginning of the quote in front of one of the paragraphs in the quote. At the same time type or copy the characters from the end of the quote at the end of the paragraph before the one where you added the characters to the front.]"

"[The codes work in pairs.]" You need one to start the quote and a second to end it, otherwise the quote just shows up as text.

Sorry about the poor explanation. :o

And what do I get?

Not what I thought. I'm still a doofus.

[TucsonMTB]

My explanation just sucks, sorry. Look at a quote and identify the stuff inside the [ ] marks at the beginning. That's "open" quote code you will need. Hint, it includes the poster's name.

Look at the end for the much simpler "close" quote code.

You need to use them in pairs.

I hope that made more sense. :o

[sierrajb]

Actually, neither of you are intellectually challenged. Computers are a black art. The close quote code goes after the last word in the quote.

Try replying with a quote to this message. Then type or copy the same characters including the "[ ]'s" that appear at the beginning of the quote in front of one of the paragraphs in the quote. At the same time type or copy the characters from the end of the quote at the end of the paragraph before the one where you added the characters to the front.

The codes work in pairs. You need one to start the quote and a second to end it, otherwise the quote just shows up as text.

Sorry about the poor explanation. :o

Okay...I simply hit the Quote button on the lower right corner of your post, and a window pops up with your quote that has [/QUOTE] at the first and last of your text. It automatically does that. I simply typed my reply after your last [/QUOTE]. I think that's how it works, right?

[sierrajb]

Yep! It worked like I wanted it to. Thanks! Now, how can I quote from more than one forum friend and respond to each in the same reply post? My guess is to hit the "MQ" button in the lower right corner of each post, right? Tried that earlier, but it only posted one quote in a window, then other quotes with raw text. Oh well...

[TucsonMTB]

Okay...I simply hit the Quote button on the lower right corner of your post, and a window pops up with your quote that has [/Q UOTE] at the first and last of your text. It automatically does that. I simply typed my reply after your last [/Q UOTE]. I think that's how it works, right?
Pretty much. The [/QUOTE] is at the end of the quote. The [QUOTE=sierrajb;93906] is at the beginning.

Notice that they must be used in pairs and in the proper order. That's why you can see the codes in my message. They are in reverse order. ;)

Edited to add: Looks like you have got it! As an added convenience, you can always hit the reply with quote in a message, copy the resulting text into NotePad, abandon that window, go to the next message and combine the text from NotePad to achieve multiple quotes in a message.

Admittedly, you only need NotePad if you have more than two quotes you want to include . . .

[Bawanna]

. I think that's how it works, right?
Pretty much. The [/QUOTE] is at the end of the quote. The
is at the beginning.

[quote=Tucsonmtb;93909]Notice that they must be used in pairs and in the proper order. That's why you can see the codes in my message. They are in reverse order. ;)

Testing one two three.

[Bawanna]

Wow, look what I did! I still feel like a doofus. Not sure I'm good at this black art stuff.

[TucsonMTB]

Testing one two three.
Perfect! :D

[TucsonMTB]

Not sure I'm good at this black art stuff.
Sure you are! Your magic wand did not explode, did it?! :D

[TucsonMTB]

Yep! It worked like I wanted it to. Thanks! Now, how can I quote from more than one forum friend and respond to each in the same reply post? My guess is to hit the "MQ" button in the lower right corner of each post, right? Tried that earlier, but it only posted one quote in a window, then other quotes with raw text. Oh well...
Brilliant! I have never used the MQ button, so it may not work as advertised. Oh, well.

By the way, if you save the quotes as a group in NotePad, not only can you easily combine many posts, but you can even post from one forum to another, since most of the forum software uses the same coding. ;)

Edited to add: Here is a quote from GlockTalk.


Just picked up a P9 today with SN-ED32xx. Not sure of production date but box serial numbers match and I found a NY State Police registration form with the paperwork from 2008. It has new style sight cuts.

[Bawanna]

Now for my next trick, how do you smart folks get multiple quotes from different post into one response and answer each individually. Wow, that's a pretty large word for a Missouri dirt farmer huh? Individually, with libert and justice for all. I could of wrote something impotent.

[TucsonMTB]

Now for my next trick . . .
I know, I know! Teacher, pick me!

Fortunately, it is easy. Just insert a couple of lines for spacing and then type whatever you like between the quotes gathered using NotePad. :)

[Bawanna]

So you do the cut and paste thing to notebook and then cut and paste from notebook to the post with the little work in pair black art quote codes?

I'll have to try that another day, I'm over my limit on Advil today and this heavy duty black art thinking gives me brain pain.

[TucsonMTB]

So you do the cut and paste thing to notebook and then cut and paste from notebook to the post with the little work in pair black art quote codes?

I'll have to try that another day, I'm over my limit on Advil today and this heavy duty black art thinking gives me brain pain.
Go to the head of the class, sir!

Since you nailed that so well, perhaps you can help me figure out how to achieve world peace using my keyboard. That will definitely require a case of Advil! :rolleyes:

[Bawanna]

Go to the head of the class, sir!

Since you nailed that so well, perhaps you can help me figure out how to achieve world peace using my keyboard. That will definitely require a case of Advil! :rolleyes:

I have some idea's on that world peace concept. Unfortunately they would never fly. Too politically incorrect. Lot's of profiling, lots of collateral damage and quite a few missions for Wynn and a large group of B 52's.
A whole new group in the nations capital.
No one could trust one man enough to let me get r dun.

[TucsonMTB]

I have some idea's on that world peace concept . . .
Yeah, that's been tried . . . by the Romans. ;)

As they described it, "Ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant" -- which means, "They create desolation and call it peace."

Oh, well . . .

[JFootin]

Okay...I simply hit the Quote button on the lower right corner of your post, and a window pops up with your quote that has at the first and last of your text. It automatically does that. I simply typed my reply after your last [/QUOTE]. I think that's how it works, right?[/QUOTE]


Yep! It worked like I wanted it to. Thanks! Now, how can I quote from more than one forum friend and respond to each in the same reply post? My guess is to hit the "MQ" button in the lower right corner of each post, right? Tried that earlier, but it only posted one quote in a window, then other quotes with raw text. Oh well...


Pretty much. The is at the end of the quote. The
is at the beginning.

Notice that they must be used in pairs and in the proper order. That's why you can see the codes in my message. They are in reverse order. ;)

Edited to add: Looks like you have got it! As an added convenience, you can always hit the reply with quote in a message, copy the resulting text into NotePad, abandon that window, go to the next message and combine the text from NotePad to achieve multiple quotes in a message.

Admittedly, you only need NotePad if you have more than two quotes you want to include . . .

The secret to the multi-quote, as demonstrated here, is you hit the multi-quote button once for all of the posts you want to include, EXCEPT the last one. Hit the quote button on the last one to start your post edit session and all of your quotes will show up. Ta da!!! :D