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getsome
09-20-2011, 02:28 PM
Have you ever watched a movie and at the end wondered "What in the heck was that all about".. I have seen this movie several times and really like it and most everything else the Coen brothers have made and last night it was on AMC so I decided to watch it while cleaning pistols from last Sundays awful range session (story for another day) anyway I was with the plot up until the very end and was trying to see if the assassin "Chigura" kills Llewelyn Moss's wife Carla Jean because I have always thought the T-Bone car crash at the end was when Chigura kills her but thats not what happened at all because it was Chigura that got T-Boned and all busted up...It isn't clear after Chigura leaves Carla Jean's house if he killed her or not but he does look at the bottom of his shoes presumably for blood but they never say....I also never understood the end where Tommy Lee Jones is telling his wife about the dream about his father riding on ahead through the fog with a torch to light a fire to keep them warm when he caught up and if perhaps the whole movie was really just a strange dream he had or is the movie just about the randomness of life and death but the last line is when the wife asks what happened next in the weird dream and he says "I woke up" and the screen goes black....That is one more strange but really cool movie and one day I'm gonna figure it out along with Pulp Fiction which I also like but don't understand either...I hope some of you wiser folks can enlighten me and tell me if I am still missing something or is this just some really bizarre strange movie about good vs evil???...:75:
ripley16
09-20-2011, 03:07 PM
Carla Jean ate some shotgun blast. Chigura killed her as he said he would.
I saw the movie as about the degredation of the world due to increased drug use, the viciousness of the business and the people involved in it on both sides.
Tommy Lee Jones was portraying a lawman at the end of his run, seeing the future and revolted by what he saw coming.
That's how I saw it.
Llewelyn's clearing of his wet 1911 is a classic in movie gun handling. They had a credible firearms "technical advisor" on the movie set for a change.
apdturbo
09-20-2011, 03:31 PM
good movie, i like Chigurhs gun, awesome silencer.
Tilos
09-20-2011, 03:48 PM
getsome:
I enjoy your posts but find them hard to read with my old eyes.
Some formatting/breaks would improve them for my reading.
just sayin/askin'
Tilos
getsome
09-20-2011, 04:31 PM
Hi tilos, Sorry but my problem is that I know so very little about puters and all those buttons and formatting gizmos and stuff like that....I'm doing good just to try and get things spelled right like Jocko showed me...the reason I don't have an avatar or ever post pictures is because I don't know how...I don't have a smart phone cause I'm not smart enough to use one...I'm an analog man in a high tech high speed digital world and all this technology has run over me and backed up several times to be sure I stay down...Maybe thats why I liked the movie because I'm an old man and don't fit into this world very well....In the future I'll try and make much shorter posts, sorry about that...
jmurch
09-20-2011, 05:02 PM
Ripley,
"Llewelyn's clearing of his wet 1911 is a classic in movie gun handling." I was really impressed that they put that in there.
All in all I thought this was great movie until the ending.
MW surveyor
09-20-2011, 05:04 PM
getsome - it's that kinda rectangular key that says "enter" on it. If'n you hit it a few times every now and then it will help.
BTW- themanski also needs to know this!
like all of you guys posts but they are somewhat hard to read
Not sure of anything in that movie! Liked it but......trying to figure it out myself!
getsome
09-20-2011, 05:18 PM
Maybe there is hope
for me
yet
thats cool, thanks and see an old dog can learn new tricks...never
knew that
one
I like it...its so
shiny...:D
jocko
09-20-2011, 05:21 PM
getsome - it's that kinda rectangular key that says "enter" on it. If'n you hit it a few times every now and then it will help.
BTW- themanski also needs to know this!
like all of you guys posts but they are somewhat hard to read
Not sure of anything in that movie! Liked it but......trying to figure it out myself!
ur not insinuating that ol jocko's posts arehard to read ,,, are u????:banplease:
Bawanna
09-20-2011, 05:40 PM
Maybe there is hope
for me
yet
thats cool, thanks and see an old dog can learn new tricks...never
knew that
one
I like it...its so
shiny...:D
I had no idea I had a soul mate here. I got rejected for one of them smart phones too, wasn't qualified. If it weren't for other much smarter than I folks around here I wouldn't have an avatar or be able to post pictures neither.
Hold you head up son, ain't no shame in not knowing this computer lingo stuff.
I recall my dad towards the end of his ride asking me if he ought to get him a computer, without forthought I told him Dad, you've had a perfect and admirable life, why screw it up now with a computer. He never got one, don't recollect he ever had a cell phone neither.
He did stay at the Holiday Inn a few nights though.
yqtszhj
09-20-2011, 05:58 PM
ur not insinuating that ol jocko's posts arehard to read ,,, are u????:banplease:
Huh??? :D
jocko
09-20-2011, 06:04 PM
my dad, God rest his soul did not know how to turn on or off a compueter, other than pulling the cord. Now I, his smart ass son am about 1 degree better than that. I do not need to pull the plug.
I never turn it off!!!
MW surveyor
09-20-2011, 06:20 PM
ur not insinuating that ol jocko's posts arehard to read ,,, are u????:banplease:
Nah! You do hit the return key every now and then. :w00t:
getsome - see that worked :D real easy to read too!
LOOK SHINY
OK, NOW BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL POST!!!!!!!!!
apdturbo
09-20-2011, 08:10 PM
thanks for the laughs guys. i know you're being 100% honest with your lack of technology
and i'm not laughing at you directly
i'm laughing at the fact that there are still some folks out there that remember how
things were without all these wonderful advances in technology, to me it brings back happy memories of a seemingly simpler time and i laugh because of how far technology has come(i wire smarthomes and fabricate custom home theatre rooms for a living). I'm not even really old by any standards i just remember when computers were huge and gov't owned.
there is still plenty of country for old men
i cant tell you the last time i used "computer", even now i post and read via iphone. if u can't beat'em join'em
Ubaldo99
09-20-2011, 10:01 PM
No Country For Old Men is one of my favorite movies as well, based on the Cormac McCarthy novel by the same name. The movie is a fairly faithful adaptation of the novel, and I actually like the movie better in many respects. The movie ends pretty much the way the novel ends -abruptly. A recurring theme in many of the McCarthy novels is the randomness of violence and the inability of the established order to understand and cope with it.
mr surveyor
09-20-2011, 10:21 PM
had it not been for the previous post, I would have never known that the title of the thread was actually the title of a movie.
I don't get out much:o
wyntrout
09-20-2011, 10:36 PM
Beware of guys lugging air tanks with some kind of tool attachment, especially if he points it at you... and never sit in-line with your door's lock set. You had to see the movie.
Wynn:D
gunmut
09-20-2011, 11:26 PM
try reading one of his books sometime; i have read two or three and they are hard to get though but they do make you think....
Orion
09-21-2011, 11:26 AM
"...i have read two or three and they are hard to get though..."
Try reading "The Road." It's the only book I have ever read from cover to cover without stopping. I had a hard time not looking ahead to see what was going to happen.
wyntrout
09-21-2011, 12:10 PM
Is that the movie The Road as well? That was a depressing movie. if you want a disturbing book, check out One Second After by William R. Forstchen, with a Forward by Newt Gingrich.
http://www.onesecondafter.com/
This is about a VERY possible threat that "The Wall Street Journal warned could shatter our nation"... excerpt from the dust cover. An ElectroMagnetic Pulse (EMP) generated by a relatively low-yield nuclear explosion at an altitude of 200 miles could short-circuit or overload all electronic devices and destroy them within line-of-sight of the explosion. Two or three of these were spaced to effectively cover the U.S.A. and throw us back to almost non-existent-today 1940's technology.
We are totally dependent on electronic communication and all things electronic to keep everything we take for granted running. Imagine no transportation, electricity, water, sewers, refrigeration, medical devices, and distribution of all of this coming to a screeching halt... with hundreds of millions starving and doing anything they can to try to stay alive a little longer. Some people would band together for defense and support, but many more would band together to take advantage of those who couldn't defend themselves or possessions... and food would quickly become non-existent... no distribution... no transportation... and cannibalism could become a way of life for some of the ravenous mobs.
It's a frightening depiction of a very possible future and covers many things most people would not think about. Transportation and distribution are the lifeblood of our country and in the blink of the eye, all of that is destroyed, leaving the mega-cities with a few days food supply at hand... and all of that looted or destroyed as people fight for their lives. Think about 90% casualties within ONE year!
Several of our competitors(China and Russia) and enemies have this technology... Korea and soon Iran... to lob low-yield nukes to an altitude of 200 miles... rocket science for sure, but requiring a lot less precision than getting near a target on the ground. Pakistan could lose control of theirs with Islamic Terrorists vying for control of the country, and Iran could arm the terrorists it supports with this terrifying weapon.
Dang! I get so carried away, but I worked and with trained with our country's most sophisticated and powerful weapons, and I know what EMP can do. We were expected to FLY through an EMP-rich environment as we carried out our mission of striking with these weapons, though in a close-to or on-the ground use, not high-atmospheric burst, trying to limit the effect to the target.
Most of us would become the "local Mom & Pop stores" of food and supplies for roving bands of merciless cutthroats or desperate, starving people who would quickly overwhelm all but the largest well-defended communities away from major population centers. Not a happy prospect, but too possible today.
Wynn:(
bigmacque
09-21-2011, 01:06 PM
I liked the ending, I thought it wrapped up nicely.
You don't really know for sure that Carla Jean was killed, but you have to believe it would have been out of character for Chigura to do otherwise, so it's a good bet she died as well.
The money: I believe the pickup truck full of Mexicans that drove away from the hotel had the money.
The title: kind of like ripley said, a lawman at the end of his run. But I think it was more about realizing that the drug war was a new game, a game for younger men, and his time had come and gone and it was time for him to move on.
MrToad
09-21-2011, 01:11 PM
Better start building Faraday cages and store critical electronic devices in them.
FWIW, microwave ovens are pretty well shielded and grounded Faraday cages.
georgepittenger
09-21-2011, 07:29 PM
No Country For Old Men is one of my favorite movies as well, based on the Cormac McCarthy novel by the same name. The movie is a fairly faithful adaptation of the novel, and I actually like the movie better in many respects. The movie ends pretty much the way the novel ends -abruptly. A recurring theme in many of the McCarthy novels is the randomness of violence and the inability of the established order to understand and cope with it.
This ^
The movie was good , the book better
I can see how if you didn't read the book , u might be dissatisfied w watching the movie .
Perhaps the same w "The Road " , a terrific book .
I don't find McCarthy a hard read at all . He's has a way w words that few authors do today .
Give his books a try , u may be hooked ..............
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