Volunteer to Work for Kahr to do Break-in Period?

[sierrajb]

I'm sure this is not an original thought or question, but how many of us would be willing to work for Kahr for FREE, just to perform the infamous break-in period for the likes of the CM9 and PM9? Before you make a rash decision and say I'm crazy, think this through:

1. Kahr agrees to put YOU on a list of one of their many chosen shooters to help them complete a "Pre-sale Break-in" for all Kahrs.
2. They send you a brand new CM9, PM9, or any other Kahr that needs 200-400 rounds shot through it. Kahr also sends you the ammunition needed for the break-in period.
3. You spend some quality time at the range of your choice, shooting a great gun and ammunition you did not buy. Once you break in the brand new Kahr, you give it a deep, professional cleaning and lubing.
4. You send the broken-in, clean, lubed gun back to Kahr in a box provided by Kahr with a shipping label prepaid by Kahr.
5. Kahr can now sell a gun that is guaranteed to shoot without failures straight from the box (a claim made by Glock & others).
6. Kahr's reputation and base of satisfied customers improves, and they make millions more from selling guns that are "ready to protect and defend" with no need for the customer to spend extra money, time, and emotions doing their own break-in period.
7. You get no money from Kahr...only the enjoyment of shooting their guns and ammo, and the satisfaction of knowing some happy customers can feel confident that their new Kahr will perform without hiccups on the very day they take it out of the box. Truly, no customer will need to "wait" for their new Kahr to become dependable.

Hey, software developers do this all day long with Beta testers. Why can't Kahr step outside the box and let us help them become the great company we all want them to be?

Let me know your thoughts. In the meantime, I'm giving Kahr a call...

[Bawanna]

My only problem is once I fall in love it's usually forever and I'd have a hard time sending the freshly broken in guns backs. Shooting, cleaning caressing and then gone. Be tough for me.

[sierrajb]

Know exactly what you mean, Bawanna! If you love something, let it go...

[Markis82]

My only problem is once I fall in love it's usually forever and I'd have a hard time sending the freshly broken in guns backs. Shooting, cleaning caressing and then gone. Be tough for me.
Kinda like when people raise seeing eye dogs from puppies and have to let them go when old enough to be trained and go to their new owners.

[Bawanna]

Kinda like when people raise seeing eye dogs from puppies and have to let them go when old enough to be trained and go to their new owners.

Actually that happened to one of our sgts. Theres a picture floating around of me with the yellow lab they raised as a service dog in front of the armored truck. Was tough when his time came to leave. The outfit discovered he did'nt get along with other dogs well enough so they got it back. Great dog.

[OldLincoln]

Yeah, I made the offer some time back. I only wanted them to pay for shipping, FFL, and ammo. Somehow the math doesn't work for them with $60 shipping, $100 FFL & CA paper work, and $90 for ammo based on 9mm factory stuff. That would add $250 per gun. Their rep would go up but the competition would have a field day. Of course their "new" guns then become used because they have been registered once.

I agree it IS a great idea and like others I would love to become a certified Kahr Armorer and do it, but it would be cheaper for them to hire someone and do it themselves.

[OldLincoln]

My only problem is once I fall in love it's usually forever and I'd have a hard time sending the freshly broken in guns backs. Shooting, cleaning caressing and then gone. Be tough for me.
Aw heck, Bawanna. You can always scratch your initials into the slide so a part of you goes with it.;)

[sierrajb]

I agree it IS a great idea and like others I would love to become a certified Kahr Armorer and do it, but it would be cheaper for them to hire someone and do it themselves.

Very true, OldLincoln! So true, it makes me wonder why Kahr doesn't hire someone to break-in their own guns. Call it Quality Control, Guaranteed Customer Satisfaction...whatever, but think of the advantages it would give the company AND the customer.

[TucsonMTB]

Nice work if you can get it.

Kahr already has a relationship with Cylinder & Slide whose least expensive reliability package (http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index.php?app=ccp0&ns=prodshow&ref=912&sid=97e58w725iy17f64n4472gi88764znw1) is over $400!

I think they did a lot of the work on Jocko's PM9 . . . you know, the one that has an impressive record of thousands of trouble-free rounds! :D

http://www.cylinder-slide.com/media/ccp0/prodxl/P40xlg.jpg

[yqtszhj]

I'm in. Just send the guns and ammo my way.

I promise not to get attached to any one gun since I know the assembly line is sending me another one. I think you call that..... love um and leave um

[JimC]

$402.19 + you pay the return shipping!

You got to be friggin' kidding me. :eek:
And they put their name on the right side of the slide.

[vn6869]

$402.19 + you pay the return shipping!

You got to be friggin' kidding me. :eek:
And they put their name on the right side of the slide.

Seriously?!?! That takes B***s :confused:

[sierrajb]

Yep! They have to charge almost the cost of a NEW Kahr because they claim to add so many "enhancements" that it becomes a whole new gun! Again, if Kahr would hire someone to break-in all their tight guns, Kahr owners wouldn't need to have such enhancements on their new guns!

Come on, Kahr! Quit hitting the snooze button. Wake up and listen to all your FANS here on this forum, please!

I double-dog dare a significant Kahr rep to respond to this thread!!!

[Bawanna]

Lets walk softly and not be calling out the folks at Kahr. I'm sure they are paying attention. Sometimes things are much larger than they appear, kind of like the mirror on the passenger side that says things are bigger than they appear. Why don't they put a regular mirror on there so they are the right size.



Just to be clear here, I'm not significant and I do not represent Kahr, much as I'd sometimes like to do both.

[JimC]

I don't honestly know if the folks at Kahr Arms took a look but, on or about 8/31/11 during an e-mail exchange between myself and Kahr CS, the exact person I was in contact with is not important, I mentioned this site and included the link to it referring to a specific topic which was directly related to my question for CS and my magazines which split.

I don't feel that I should included the answer that I got but, I took it at the time that CS did in fact take a read off of the link that I supplied. ;)

I would think they found a variety of interesting comments posted here. What action may or may not be taken is anybodies guess.

[OldLincoln]

The question "Does Kahr read this site?" has been asked before. The answer is "not officially". I do suspect some at Kahr peruse this sight that they sponsor but they will not reply or represent Kahr here. That they don't get involved is likely a good thing although I often wish someone who actually is involved at Kahr would whisper in an ear the backstory on some common issues.

[JimC]

Personally IMO, I think there is at least one Kahr Arms employee posting here under an assumed name. They would be smart not to identify themselves for obvious reasons.

Some of the comments that I've read during my short time here seem like they "might" come from someone who "might" know something more...

Yes, I could be wrong.

Many years ago when I was involved in competitive shooting with a specific brand of pistol, friendships were made between some of the shooters and employees of that company. Some of them began to post on a very popular web site specific to that brand of pistol under names other than their own.
Long story short, it didn't go well after others found out that the posters were in fact from the company. The questions began to flow like beer at a bachelor party and some even demanded answers to their questions.

If you check out the Industry section of AR-15.com, you will find that many from the specific companies do not answer questions asked of them. I think it is because the posters became too familiar and maybe demanding.

[sierrajb]

Just to be clear, I don't want to sling mud on Kahr, Glock, or any other great gun maker. Please don't misunderstand my original post, OR my challenge to have Kahr respond to our questions or concerns. While I think it would satisfy a lot of us here on this forum, I don't think the "professional" thing to do is for Kahr to host or post on a public forum like this one. Truth is, I'm sure Kahr has a fine Customer Service Department and a working phone number/email address to answer any real question I may have.

My posts on this thread are merely intended to get our creative juices flowing, not to invoke any hard feelings toward Kahr or any members on our forum. I appreciate our Moderators who allow us to dream (like this thread), and sometimes to "vent." It's all good, and I appreciate your continued comments. Just didn't want to be misunderstood as starting a friendly riot or bad-mouthing the makers of my FAVORITE gun!

[Bawanna]

"I don't think the "professional" thing to do is for Kahr to host or post on a public forum like this one. Truth is, I'm sure Kahr has a fine Customer Service Department and a working phone number/email address to answer any real question I may have."

Well said.