Would you buy another CM9?

[markrb]

I am looking into possibly purchasing a CM9 as my primary CCW and have been doing lots of research on all the guns of this type.

To be honest I have not found one small 9mm that people don't complain about something. The most concerning for me with the CM9 is the nosedive issue and the fact that some people have had to modify their springs to make it work effectively.

What I am asking current CM9 owners is given all the known potential issues with this gun if you had to do it over again would you still purchase one and trust it as your primary CCW?

Thanks,
Mark

[stumprat]

Absolutely,

I will be buying one for my wife. And my son is also buying one.

[Popeye]

I have a PM9 and if I was looking again today I would by the CM9. It is my firm belief that many of the problems we hear about,and not only the Kahr,but every small 9mm is the person pulling the trigger. There is a period of time that the pistol needs to break in, there is also a period of time the person squeezing the trigger needs to learn how to shoot a particular pistol and what ammo works best in it.

[Bill K]

Hi Mark, welcome to KahrTalk!

Your sentence about complaining is probably true for every category or even model of gun. I believe there is a correlation between the size of a gun category and the reliability of the guns found in that category. Yes, to me it seems the smaller and lighter and newer the gun the more it is prone to issues out of the box.

I have the PM9 and did have two issues with my purchase when new. Both were easily resolved with help from folks here at KahrTalk and without having to be returned to Kahr.

Again, welcome...

[Unythios]

Totally. I have less than 100 rounds through mine due to lack of time. Just do the Kahr prep steps and you should be good to go. I love my CM9.

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[mikeg26]

Welcome, Mark!

I purchased my CM9 a month ago and have fired over 800 rounds of 115 grain to 147 grain standard and 50 rounds of +P through it with NOT EVEN ONE failure from the beginning. I have let around five guys at the range shoot it with no failure. It has loosened considerabley; out of the box, I could hardly rack it. Now, being a lefty, I have "slingshot" it from the first 50 rounds with NO issues. The recoil seemed a slight bit more than the G26, which is nothing. Added an inner tube grip before the first shot. Shot 370 mixed rounds on my first range visit with absolutely no hand fatigue. And I am an old guy. Still working on shot placement and improve every week. Dry firing between range trips is undertaken daily.

This CM9 is my carry gun. I TRUST this pistol! The G26 and Keltek P32 are lonesome......

This is a great and unusual forum. There is minimum slamming with superb constructive ideas. I followed the "sticky" preparation of the CM9 before the first shot, adjusted the magazines per other posts so as the cleanly drop, but the weapon is flawless.

[Ressom]

There is no doubt in my mind I would still purchase one. The CM9 is one solid little gun! I have over 1000 perfect rounds through mine and it is on my belt every day.

[rclAlaric]

Absolutely! I have over 500 rounds through mine. I had three FTFs within the 200 round break-in, but none since then. Even when using the 7-round mag. I am shooting it much more accurately than I did at first.

It's like a fine wine, it gets better and better with age!

[HeyGuysWatchThis]

If I was buying again today, yes, the CM9 would be my choice. If I was doing it a year from now, I would have to investigate the Diamondback DB9 again. I really wanted to like that one, but it's just too new with too many reliability skeletons in the closet. It's just enough thinner and lighter that I wish I could trust it, but I can't.

[BrewerGeorge]

I've only had mine a little while, and haven't even carried it yet because I accidentally let my CCW expire (doh!) and I'm still waiting on the replacement. But I've fired a couple hundred rounds through with zero failures.

I'd buy another in a second. Heck, I MAY buy another just to keep in the truck full-time.

[Markis82]

My CM9 is relatively new and have put around 500 rounds thru it, of many different types of ammo. I've had no, 0, nada, problems. I have had many handguns over the years. I'd say this is one of the best guns I have ever shot!! With anything, guns, toasters, cars, etc... there are a percentage of issues. On forums, it seems like the issues are a larger percentage than they really are. The issues are talked about more than the non-issues. So, it seems larger. You have seen some people having nose dive issues. But, there are tons of people you don't hear or see that don't have issues. These guns are selling like hotcakes. I think if you look at all the guns with nose dive problems and compare it with all the CM9's produced, you'll find it is a low amount of guns with problems. If I had to do it over again the only choice I'd make differently would be to order the CM9 with the night sights already installed at the factory. It cost me extra money to order them and have the rear installed vs ordering the gun with them. The sights are the weakest part of this gun. The plastic front sight snaps off easily when changing out for the night sight. That said, YES I buy another one and I'd recommend the CM9 to anyone who was considering a small sized 9mm.

[Popeye]

George as much as I like the Kahr PM/CM series ,to be used as a CC SD pistol, for a smaller truck gun that is going to sit there in all sorts of temp changes and weather conditions I think I'd go with slightly bigger duty pistol like the XD9sc or the Glock 26. There built to be abused a bit more than a CM9/PM9. Plus that there both great pistols and in the $450 to $500 range and have larger round mags. Like I mentioned I love my Kahr but I can't imagine trying to shoot one with any kind of accuracy with a winter glove on. I bought a slightly used G26 a couple weeks ago from a friend for this very reason, to sit in a motorcycle saddlebag. I'm not fond of the grip angle on the Glock 26 but it's known reliability and it's ability to be abused a little and the cost of $350 made it a no brainer. Just a thought.

[jocko]

not sure I would want to stick an $800 gun in a glove box, no matter who made it. Probalby a high cpaicity used G19 or G26 would be ideal..

[1911master]

In a Heartbeat.

[Bawanna]

Markrb, buy with confidence. As you can see there's lots of help here if you need it. I don't own a CM YET but I would buy without thought. It's a solid performer and the odds are very good you'll have no issue even right out of the box. If you follow the prep threads, clean and lube etc, it just increases the odds even more.

We'll help and failing that, the fellas that made it will make it right if they didn't the first time. Highly unlikely.

[BrewerGeorge]

not sure I would want to stick an $800 gun in a glove box, no matter who made it. Probalby a high cpaicity used G19 or G26 would be ideal..
I paid $419 for my CM9. :)

I like the point about firing with the glove, though. I've got a 2nd Gen G22 that might just end up with truck duty instead.

[Bear549]

I am one of those that had nose dive issues in the beginning with just one type of ammo, CCI Blazer. Everything else I tried ran fine and it was only with CCI Blazer 2-3 times per 50 rounds. After messing with it and trying all kinds of different things such as sanding the followers, cleaning, lubing and so on. I believe now that the nose dive issues were related to the springs in the mag and the recoil spring being too strong. Leave the mags full for a couple of weeks and leave the slide locked back for a couple of days, lube it and run with it. After 500 rounds now, I can shoot the Blazer ammo without any issues. The one thing I wish Kahr would look at a little more is the mags should drop free whether it is squeezing the mags or opening the mag well up some.

All said and done, YES I would buy another CM9. The trigger is so much better than other guns in it's class and it is a little smaller than others in it's class. The small size is harder to shot so I do not know if I would recommmend it to a beginner unless I knew that they are going to practice with it.

[markrb]

It's great to hear that so many would not hesitate to purchase it again knowing what they know now after owning it.
Personally for me I think it will come down to whether I can handle the lack of a safety or not. I know many hate the idea of one, but I am of the minority that sleeps better knowing I have one. I like carrying with the safety on and one in the chamber. With my SR9c I have become very good at drawing and removing the safety in one motion. There is just something about a live round pointing at my leg with no safety that bugs me.
My buddies say I am just being paranoid. That with proper technique there are more then enough internal safeties that it going of by accident is just about impossible.

Thanks,
Mark

[Markis82]

It's great to hear that so many would not hesitate to purchase it again knowing what they know now after owning it.
Personally for me I think it will come down to whether I can handle the lack of a safety or not. I know many hate the idea of one, but I am of the minority that sleeps better knowing I have one. I like carrying with the safety on and one in the chamber. With my SR9c I have become very good at drawing and removing the safety in one motion. There is just something about a live round pointing at my leg with no safety that bugs me.
My buddies say I am just being paranoid. That with proper technique there are more then enough internal safeties that it going of by accident is just about impossible.

Thanks,
Mark
The biggest safety is the one between your ears. Yup, they won't, will not, fire unless you pull the trigger. Personally, I look for a gun with no external thumb safety for a carry weapon. Less to complicate things in an emergency situation.

[yqtszhj]

I love mine and I would buy another one in a heartbeat

[Ubaldo99]

Markrb: See my CM9 range report dated today. Big thumbs-up to CM9.

[Benaiah]

Yes. I have not experienced any nose-dives and have racked the slide on every reload with no issues.

[dh2683]

Paid 409.00 for mine & could not be happier with it. I think it is a GREAT choice for CC :D

[les strat]

I would without question. I have over 500 through mine, and it is slicked up where I do not have to go through the process to load the chamber - I just slingshot it. I always tap my full mag against a table to make sure all the ammo is seated well. Just try a bunch of brands and weight of target and SD ammo and used what gives you the best results. Just gotta make sure you go through the break-in period. I had a few slide lockback and FTfeed issues in the first 50. COuld have been the ammo (PMC).
Mine likes a diet of WWB and Win PDX-1 124gr +p or Spear GD 124gr +p.

[joe d]

Absolutely....I have over 2k flawless rounds thru mine...I've owned/own a few firearms over the years from very high dollar to budget,and I will say from my experiences with them,they all came with their little quirks and annoying issues...nothing I could never get through though...If you buy a kahr,any kahr,this is the forum to come to...People here are the best and most knowledgable,and the most helpful in any event...Just prep and lube according to Jockos' threads and have at it...

[bonjorno2]

yes in a heartbeat, althought the nano looks interesting!

[markrb]

I saw the promo for the Nano as well and was interested, but I don't see it out anywhere and nobody will give me anything, but MSRP.

I am very impressed by the knowledge in this forum. To get this many quality responses from a post in so short of time is almost unheard of.

Thanks to all of you,
Mark

[yqtszhj]

50 more trouble free rounds confirm my previous post of YES.

[Devo]

I purchased the CM9 on its release date. I had my eye on it as much as 30 days prior. The form factor is excellent. It functions now that it has been to Kahr twice. To be honest I wonder if I was part of a bad batch. Kahr would be out of business if every gun they sold had to go back for service twice to function properly. That said it works, but its still trying to earn my trust.

[big bear]

Yes ,I would buy another CM9. I have four Glocks and used to carry my G-27 all the time but, after buying the CM9 I always carry it in my front pocket and leave the Glocks in the safe. Go figure! :D

[ToneSurfer]

You bet. I've had only 3 nosedives with mine and they were all before I solved the issue with the recoil spring causing a snag/hitch in the slide action. None since. I'm up to a bit over 600 rounds now and the last 300 or so have been flawless. Shooting WWB mostly, Hornady Critical Defense, and Winchester Ranger SXT. It's carry ready as soon as I find a holster.

[Zebulun]

Absolutely I'd buy another, Other then my Glocks and S&W this ran right out of the box, I cleaned it after about 100 rounds at the range and ran another hundred down the tube.
No problems.
One thing we all must remember is that forums are very useful for info about our cars, bikes, weapons etc. but for every failure report there are many many others who own the product and are very satisfied but never join a forum.
I believe there is far less chance of a Kahr going wrong than many other makes.

[muggsy]

Would I buy another CM9? Yes, but I'm thinking of buying a CW40 instead.

[Russ]

The question should be would you buy another CM9 when the Beretta Nano retails for the same price ? If the 1,000 round test Beretta did with the Nano can be replicated Kahr will have no choice but to drop the price on the CM9. I loved how well made my CM9 was but I had just enough FTF even after 700 rounds that I couldn't feel confident that it would go bang if my family or my life was on the line.

[bufford]

I had one FTF in the first 25 rounds... now with 150 and no further issues I have it with me as a primary CCW every day. I am sold on this weapon. (Now the Glock 32 is still in my backpack in case I am attacked by zombies)

[Mikesull415]

Knowing what I know now, ..............I just did buy a new one

[rogerthedodger]

WOW, now I reeeaaallllyyy want one.

[cgff]

Id buy another, and may have to while the mag promo is going on

[Zebulun]

Yes , when you fire it for the first time, feel the tight fit and see the fine finish it gives you confidence that this little piece is a quality item, not to be confused by the "problems" experienced by some, this is a very good weapon.

[Squib]

According to my LGS last Saturday, the Nano is supposed to be in stores in time for Black Friday. I can wait.

[JohnR]

Yes , when you fire it for the first time, feel the tight fit and see the fine finish it gives you confidence that this little piece is a quality item, not to be confused by the "problems" experienced by some, this is a very good weapon.
Ooh, that almost sounded dirty. :o :D :p

[nmkahrshooter]

No!! Just got rid of mine for a Ruger LC9. Too many problems with the Kahr.

[druryj]

To answer the OP's question: "Yes".

[John222]

Just got my CM9 this week and put 100 rds thru it today. Not one problem. This is not only a solid quality gun, it's also very attractive. I almost purchased the Nano, which I'm sure it's also a quality piece. But I've got to say the Nano is an ugly duck compared to the CM9.

So yes, I would definitely buy this gun again.