CW40 won't eject unfired rounds

[Husky44]

Tried the search, didn't find an answer...

My CW40 won't eject an unfired round. When clearing it, I drop the mag, pull the slide back, but it won't go all the way to full lock. The round seems to bind against the chamber block (for lack of the official term). The casing is still held firmly by the extractor, but the nose of the round seems to bind up as it's starting to kick out of the ejection port.

When I release the slide, it will most frequently rechamber the round; if I pull back really hard on the slide, it will bind more and not easily rechamber. Only way to clear the round is to hold the slide as far open as possible while pushing down on the round, forcing it out of the mag well.

I'm guessing there's a video for this too that I haven't seen, but I searched "eject unfired" and got a few hits, but none that addressed my issue. This concerns me for an EDC!

[HadEmAll]

Has it ever had an ejection problem while firing? I have some snap caps and will try it on my CW40 in a bit.

You probably know you should not rechamber the same round too many times, especially .40.

[Bawanna]

Heard of this before and it's usually because you don't rack the slide vigorously enough. You have to pull it right back far as it will go so it hits the ejector with gusto.

I don't remember how new your gun is but it should improve with time on it's own also.

[MW surveyor]

Yea, what he said. Pull that back real smartly.

[Bawanna]

Certainly no demerit's intended. These little puppies are stiff especially when new. I've seen strong men in good shape brought to their knees by a Kahr slide.
It's all about grip and technique as much as brute strength.

Fortunately I'm blessed with both although it's slipping away quite rapidly.

[wyntrout]

Weak hand over slide and pushing with the strong hand for combined force while holding the pistol parallel to your chest and pointed downrange or in a safe direction will generate more force. It IS a b!tch to pull the slide back just holding the pistol with your strong hand and trying to pull the slide back with just your weak-hand thumb and curled index finger.
I always use the overhand method to pull back the slide for re-c0cking or chambering a round. I do use the Kahr-recommended chambering from the slide-locked-back position, but sometimes the slide needs to go fully to the rear to get past the nose-against the ramp FTF. Any chambering by manual racking needs for the slide to be forcibly ripped from the hand as the slide reaches maximum rearward movement... no dragging or riding the slide!

Wynn:)

[Bawanna]

Sweet Mary and Joseph! Look at the arms on that guy, must be on steroids.

Talk about bulging bulges.

Nice pics buddy. That's the way this wimp does it too.

Also because that's the way we like it uh huh, uh huh, that's the way we like it.

[jocko]

Tried the search, didn't find an answer...

My CW40 won't eject an unfired round. When clearing it, I drop the mag, pull the slide back, but it won't go all the way to full lock. The round seems to bind against the chamber block (for lack of the official term). The casing is still held firmly by the extractor, but the nose of the round seems to bind up as it's starting to kick out of the ejection port.

When I release the slide, it will most frequently rechamber the round; if I pull back really hard on the slide, it will bind more and not easily rechamber. Only way to clear the round is to hold the slide as far open as possible while pushing down on the round, forcing it out of the mag well.

I'm guessing there's a video for this too that I haven't seen, but I searched "eject unfired" and got a few hits, but none that addressed my issue. This concerns me for an EDC!

practice is needed. It definitely will eject an unfired round

[wyntrout]

I'm hiding the hangy-down floppy parts below my biceps... or where they are supposed to be.:rolleyes: They're not quite as bad some of the old ladies where they flap like wings!:eek:

Wynn:)

[Husky44]

No issues while firing.

I've got no problem racking a slide; since day one I've been able to successfully put my Kahr into battery without using the slide lock release. I only rack the slide overhand, and by punching the gun away....except when I'm trying to get that last round to land on the workbench, rather than under it. :)

I'll give it a shot when I get home, in the middle of the driveway where the round can't get lost or roll underneath something.

Thanks guys!

[MW surveyor]

No, no, no.... you gotta do it sitting in your recliner so that the round ejects between the arm rest and the seat. It will collect the round in the space below the seat. Then you can get the round out with all the damn crumbs.

Sheesh!

[jocko]

what surv is saying is GOSPEL.

[Richardh]

I have the same problem with my CW 40. It does not matter how hard or which method I use to eject the chambered round. I have found one ammo brand that works fine (Magtech). The bullet shape is more tapered and it does not get caught in the ejection port. Bullet shape is the only thing that is different.

Sittin in the recliner didn't make a difference either!

[Husky44]

Went to the range today. Tried both types of rounds (JHP and FMJ), same issue with both. Tried my snap caps, and they ejected fine. It seems to be an issue with the shape of the nose of the round.

It is NOT my technique. I just about ripped the slide off the back of the frame, NUMEROUS times. Any other ideas?

[TheTman]

I had a problem trying to eject Winchester Ranger 155 gr HP cartridges. Other types of ammo ejected fine, but the Ranger has a wider lip on it compared to other hollow points. I took a file and filed down part of that shroud that hangs back from the top of the barrel, just a little at a time, until it would eject the Rangers with no problem.
I had no problem with FMJ or HP bullets, just the Rangers. Sounds like your problem is more severe than mine was. Have you talked to Kahr Customer Service about it? Perhaps it needs some work done on it at the factory.

[gb6491]

Husky44,
I'm on-board with your thinking that the shape of the bullet or length of the rounds you are using results in the nose of the round not clearing the chamber by the time the case hits the ejector (not enough travel). thetmanski's post would seem to support this as well.
There's also a chance that the extractor is not holding the complete round high enough when it hits the ejector. Can you eject a live round if the there is a magazine in the gun (with rounds in the magazine and without rounds)?
If slide travel length is the culprit, you might be able to work around it by just using different ammo, trying thetmanski's fix, or shortening the length of you ejector.
If it's an extractor issue, a new extractor and/or spring might be in order , but I'd give that area a good cleaning first.
Regards,
Greg

[HadEmAll]

I just extracted a Win 155 grain jhp and five CCI 165 grain fmj's from my CW40. Pistol held in right hand, slide pulled back smartly with the left. All sprang out of the ejection port free and clear.

[Husky44]

Sending it back. Disassembled again, checked everything, tried multiple different rounds, no improvement. :(

LGS said they'd send it back, had another with a similar issue. Really frustrating b/c I just got notice my CBST shipped Friday. Hope to get it back before I travel at the end of the month, especially since i don't have a good CC holster for my XDm.

Anybody else sent one back lately? What kind of turnaround did you get?

[Husky44]

Dropped it off at the LGS today; they said plan on 30 days or more to get it back.

Isn't there someone on here that works there, that can improve that any?

[rogerthedodger]

Husky44, I have the same prob with my P380, am waiting to see what they do to fix yours. Mine only does it with some brands of ammo, I may try the filing of the barrel hood trick.
Roger

[Husky44]

I pick it up tomorrow! Stand by for report this weekend.

[Husky44]

Picked up the gun today. Barrel work, polished slide stop.

They didn't specify what "barrel work" they did, but the rounds still stick. They almost clear, but not quite. Went straight to the range, 200 rounds. Gun seemed to work a little better. Only had a couple of issues with it locking back on the second round.

I considered doing a wee bit more clearancing on the barrel hood, but have been thinking about it all night, and am seriously considering selling it.

Stopped to pick up some more ammo on the way home tonight, and handled a Walther PPS 40. Didn't spend a whole lot of time with it, but first impression was positive.

One of the reasons I'm thinking of selling the CW40 is that it just doesn't seem to fit me right. The grip feels awkward in my hand, and coming out of the holster I may wind up with totally misaligned sights. I can't explain it, but the gun just doesn't naturally point in for me. My XDM is on target before I even acquire the sights. I guess I'm spoiled with it. I also have a lot of trouble with second round on a double tap being way low (like from COM to a groin shot at 10 yards); the long trigger travel has always been an adjustment for me coming off my XDM. Not bagging on the CW40 at all, other than I'm coming more to the conclusion that it's not the right gun for ME.

Bummer, because it is really comfortable in the CBST I just bought. Hopefully my free mag will show up soon, so I can sweeten the deal a little to recover as much money as I can.

[rogerthedodger]

figured out why my P380 would not eject unfired rounds, only some brands. I put the original recoil spring in it, and it worked. I think the spring, when barrel is forward, does not allow barrel to go forward enough. I was thinking of filing barrel end, but didnt need to do it.
Good luck on your CW40 decisions.
Roger

[Ikeo74]

Don't forget the basic rule when hand ejecting a round from the gun: Hold the gun with the ejection port facing down! Ith bullet leaves the gun by gravity. Give gravity a chance. Any other position defies gravity. :target:
I just love these smiles! I am just jumping up and down to get the point across.

[Husky44]

Roger,

I considered the ammo hunt, but have already used several types of FMJ, and haven't found a winner yet. Plus, I had already settled on a defensive round, and don't want to go through another 300-400 rounds to prove out another brand in both of my guns, at $38 a box.

My goal with the Kahr was a gun that was more concealable than my XDm, but just as accurate m reliable, and comfortable. It needs to eat the same ammo. I'm looking for KISS in my arsenal. One caliber, two types of round, little variance in platform as possible given the inherent differences in single vs. double stack and frame size. I've concluded that this isn't the gun for my needs.

Ikeo74: gravity isn't the issue here. The round literally wedges against the hood of the barrel while still locked into the extractor. It needs more clearancing on the barrel hood, ejector, or shorter ammo. I could probably fix the problem myself with a little work to the hood, but I'm not inclined to start modding a gun I'm probably going to sell anyway.

[rogerthedodger]

Roger,

I considered the ammo hunt, but have already used several types of FMJ, and haven't found a winner yet. Plus, I had already settled on a defensive round, and don't want to go through another 300-400 rounds to prove out another brand in both of my guns, at $38 a box.

My goal with the Kahr was a gun that was more concealable than my XDm, but just as accurate m reliable, and comfortable. It needs to eat the same ammo. I'm looking for KISS in my arsenal. One caliber, two types of round, little variance in platform as possible given the inherent differences in single vs. double stack and frame size. I've concluded that this isn't the gun for my needs.
Yea, I hear you on the ammo issue, I decided to eliminate the .40 and stay with 9mm and .380 for the same reason. Needless to say, I didn't think I would have to go thru 800+ rounds of .380 to make this P380 reliable. I wish(hindsite is wonderful LOL) I had just stayed with 9mm, I like my LC9, can pocket carry it so no need for P380 now. Ba humbug.
Good Luck, Roger
PS I dont know if you have looked at the SR40C, maybe too big for you, but its getting rave reviews on the ruger forums. I have the SR9C and I really like it, but i'm not going to carry it, just a "fun" gun.

[TheTman]

You might try filing down the barrel shroud some if that's what it's hanging up on. Sure worked for me.