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johnh
10-06-2011, 07:31 PM
I, like many forum members who carry concealed regularly, have devoted quite a bit of time and resources to finding quality, comfortable holsters for my regular carry guns. It took many years of experimenting to decide what rigs worked best for me, for particular situations. One area that I have not had the best luck with was in identifying an outside the waistband (OWB) holster that I could use regularly for concealed carry. While inside the waistband (IWB) holsters have their advantages in terms of concealment, they are never as comfortable as an OWB rig. The fact that the gun has to be wedged between your body , waistband, and belt, means that there will be more contact between the gun and your torso. In addition, the pants waistband will be stretched making for a much less comfortable fit. While I am happy enough with my regular carry IWB rigs, I have long wanted to find an OWB rig that would allow me to hide a gun under an untucked shirt well enough to carry concealed that way. But this raised its own set of challenges.

The primary issue with OWB rigs is obviously printing. The gun being outside the waistband makes it much more likely to make an impression on clothing that covers it, and that can be noticed. I tend to think that most shooters worry more about this than is necessary. When you put on a gun, cover it with a shirt, and look in the mirror, you know it is there. You know where to look for it, and will recognized the impression it makes on the covering clothes. This printing seems quite visible to the wearer, but may not be to an observer not looking for a gun. Never-the-less, it is important when carrying concealed to do one’s best to keep concealment as complete as possible. So for an OWB holster to work for concealed carry, it must minimize printing. My past experiments with various holsters never produced a satisfactory result when carrying anything but the smallest of handguns.

With that in mind, I contacted Edward Kaye, owner of Stellar Rigs Holsters (http://www.stellarrigs.com/). Stellar Rigs has been a sponsor of KahrTalk since the very early days of the forum, and has provided many a member with his high quality products. I asked if they could provide me a kydex OWB rig that would effectively conceal a mid-sized Glock pistol, while being comfortable to wear and providing effective retention. They assured me that this would be no problem. I know some members might ask “why not leather?” Kydex wears better, tends to be lighter, has more capability to offer adjustments to carry configuration (such as changes to cant), retains shape, and has the ability to retain the pistol using just the tension of the kydex. Leather is pretty, but unless you need a soft surface (such as for a backer), kydex wins in all other areas.

In short order, Stellar Rigs provided me one of their hand made Paddle models, in my preferred color of Coyote Brown. Yes, I know, that is the latest fad in gear colors, but Tan/FDE/Coyote is the new black. It also matches the rest of my non-concealed carry gear for when I am serving as a range officer or just having fun with the guys putting some lead down range.
My first impressions of the Stellar Paddle Holster had to be that it is an extremely solid piece of gear. The materials Stellar uses are not the very thin kydex offered by some other brands. This is a good thickness of kydex that will not break any time soon. I suspect you could stand on it and not do any damage. It is not so thick as to be bulky—just a reassuring amount of material if you have ever (as I have) had a holster break. Thin kydex can be brittle. The color is a good approximation of military FDE. You may not see that in my pictures, but it goes very well with my other similarly colored gear. Of course it can be had in black if you prefer that. ;)

The fit of the holster to pistol is simply perfect. It has been precisely contoured to the Glock platform that I wanted to use this rig for. I know, not a Kahr but I am well covered in holsters for the small guns I carry. My purpose here was to achieve a comfortable way of carrying a larger pistol, OWB. The fit of Stellar’s rig to my Glock 23 is perfect. The retention is just enough to hold the gun solidly in place even during sudden movement—including jumping up and down, as well as going prone. Cheap, mass produced kydex holsters always fail such tests. They lack proper fit to pistol frames, and thus proper retention. The generic mass produced holsters that claim to fit more than one brand of pistol are even worse. Stellar’s holsters will not fail you while on the move. If fit of the kydex alone is not good enough, Stellar has included tension screws with rubber spacers that allow further tuning. I did not need to adjust them in any way. Another important feature of Stellar’s holster body is that the kydex is kept intentionally smooth. There are no sharp or rough edges, and all corners have been rounded off to prevent snagging. This holster will not hang up on your garments, avoiding any possible interference with drawing, holstering, or creating suspicious angles in covering clothing.

For the paddle and mounting hardware, Stellar has chosen to use factory Bladetech components. As they point out on their web site, these are some of the best paddles made today. The material is robust without being bulky. Equally important is the fact that the Bladetech paddle allows for four positions of height adjustment just using screws. Stellar added to this by making the holster body feature seven wisely placed holes for adjusting holster cant and position using the two main attachment screws that mount it to the paddle. With these options, you can choose from a variety of cant and height options. In my case it was perfect out of the box. Stellar seemed to have read my mind in terms of what I needed to best carry my G23 concealed under a loose fitting shirt. The Bladtech paddle uses a j-hook method of gripping the belt that works very well at holding the holster in place, while still allowing it to be removed without major effort. Stellar could have made their own paddles I am sure, but there is great wisdom in recognizing that there is no reason to reinvent the wheel. Bladetech got the paddle right, so they just added a better holster.

That brings me to the most important point, how has it worked for my original intended purpose? The answer is very, very well. When it first arrived I took some time and experimented with various clothing. I quickly discovered that the Stellar Paddle holds the gun closer to my body that other OWB rigs I have tried. This greatly reduces the potential for printing. I am a thin man, and do not have much waist diameter or torso thickness to hide pistol grips. If a gun protrudes to the side, front, or back, it will show on me as a tell-tale bulge. Thus most OWB rigs fail as they tend to let a pistol tilt out, back, or forward too far to hide when I bend over even a minimal amount. This does not happen with the Stellar Paddle Holster unless I wear a tight shirt—something I never do when carrying concealed unless using a pocket holster or low set IWB rig. It was immediately apparent that I could easily carry the medium sized Glock 23 under a loose fitting, untucked shirt in this holster with minimal risk of printing. That cleared me to move on to the only valid test of everyday carry.

As good fortune would have it, the holster arrived just in time for a long family vacation trip to visit my wife’s family in Minnesota. I wore the Stellar paddle and my G23 as often as possible on the trip, typically under an un-tucked button-up shirt and cargo shorts, combined with a quality leather pistol belt. This is a very good test as shorts do not hold up a holster as well as pants, and summer weather meant that my shirt was fairly light. I regularly checked my reflection for printing and saw no obvious issues. I also had my wife monitor this, and she reported the same. She is prone to saying “you are printing honey” if she sees me slip. In addition to hiding well, the OWB rig had the fringe benefit of being much more comfortable than an IWB when driving. Sitting in a van for eight hours tends to expose every little aspect of a carry rig’s comfort issues. I could have forgotten I was wearing the Stellar Paddle Holster. Hands down, this rig met every one of my expectations for comfort, and far exceeded my expectation for concealability. It proved itself then, and has continued to do so since.

I highly recommend the Stellar Rigs Paddle Holster to forum members. Anyone seeking a high quality OWB holster for concealed carry, range, duty, or competition use would be very well served by one of these rigs. I have never been happier with an outside the waistband holster, and it has become a key part of my concealed carry gear. It also goes with me on every range trip. I have finally found an OWB rig that I can wear in complete comfort while remaining confident that my concealed carry pistol stays concealed. I will also be trying out one of Stellar’s pocket rigs as soon as funds permit me to pick up the PM9 I have been carefully budgeting for. Anyone seeking a high quality concealed carry holster owes it to themselves to get to the Stellar Rigs web site and check out their product line. I am very sure you will be pleased with your purchase!

Stellar Rigs Holsters web site (http://www.stellarrigs.com/)

Side View (Notice the Cool Color! :D)
http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=81&pictureid=540

View of Paddle and Adjustments
http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=81&pictureid=541

Top View Showing Contours
http://kahrtalk.com/picture.php?albumid=81&pictureid=542

JFootin
10-06-2011, 09:10 PM
John, I am surprised that a paddle holster could hold the gun tighter against the body and print less than other OWB holsters. The paddle mechanism usually positions the gun and holster a little bit away from the body. I would think that a properly made Kydex pancake holster would fit closer, such as this one at pjholster.com:

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/PJPancakeHolster.jpg

Do you see how tight to the body this holster holds the gun? I'll bet it is very comfortable, too, because it is absolutely flat on the back side. I know, it doesn't have the adjustability of your holster, but Paul will make his holster to suit you.

I would like to see pics similar to these of you wearing yours for comparison.

1911master
10-06-2011, 09:23 PM
Jfootin, I agree with you. I have the holster in your photo for my PM9 and it is a great holster. Paul does a great job molding to fit. I don't care for kydex but I find myself always using Pauls .

johnh
10-07-2011, 09:13 AM
I will try to get a pick with it on this weekend. It holds it close, but not as close your pics. The difference between having belt loops that go through the holster versus a paddle is part of that. But then you cannot take the holster off without removing your belt. We have no-carry areas in Missouri, and I tend to remove the entire rig rather than just the gun.

JFootin
10-07-2011, 10:40 AM
I will try to get a pick with it on this weekend. It holds it close, but not as close your pics. The difference between having belt loops that go through the holster versus a paddle is part of that. But then you cannot take the holster off without removing your belt. We have no-carry areas in Missouri, and I tend to remove the entire rig rather than just the gun.

I'll bet it is the shape and rigidity of that high tech Blade-Tech paddle that keeps it up close to your body.

I know what you mean about the belt. I'm a lefty, meaning I have to remove my belt from all except one belt loop to put my high rise Tagua belt holster on, and be very careful about positioning it so I don't have to loosen and redo. I have considered paddle holsters. This one by Ross Leather looks interesting for the CM9. It has an all leather paddle (except for the hinge and hardware) which looks real comfortable...

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/RossMiamiPaddleHolsteronBelt.gif

I have also looked at holsters with snap loops. The Mitch Rosen Premier holster on the Kahr website is interesting, a less expensive version of a $160 holster for $90. Not bad. I also found this IWB holster that I am very close to buying. It is the TT Gunleather EC Mike's Special Slim IWB Holster (http://www.ttgunleather.com/catalog/i116.html), another less expensive version of a more expensive holster, and it is also thinner...

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/TTSlimIWBHolsterECMikesSpecial-1.jpg

I have a Looper Gun Belt from Kahr due to be delivered today. That, I am sure will help any holster work better and keep the gun tight against my body. Kahr's price on the belt is almost $5 cheaper than at Looper or Blade-Tech, and they have them in stock and ship them fast. This Kydex reinforced belt is half the price of comparable reinforced belts from other manufacturers - a great deal!

O'Dell
10-10-2011, 12:15 AM
Thanks, John. I seldom use IWB holsters because for me, they are just not comfortable. This means, if I don't have the PM9 or LCP in a pocket, I wear an OWB holster. I have quite a few belt holster and they work very well for the most part. However, you just can't beat the convenience of a paddle. Over the years I have learned if you're going to get a paddle, get a Bladetech or a Black Hawk. [I'll look into Stellar] I have a few Galco and Fobus paddles, but none hold the pistol close enough to the body to conceal well for my thin frame, and the BT and BH do.

I have thirteen active pistols, but two are pocket and three are too large for me to conceal well, although I do occasionally carry the P220. That leaves eight that are regularly carried OWB. About 1/2 the time it's the CW40. Oddly enough, the Bladetech paddle I bought years ago for a SIG P6 [it works fine for the P220 and most medium SIG's] works perfectly with the CW40. I can't explain it because the P220 and CW are so different in size, but I'm not complaining since it saved me the price of a new holster. I also have a Black Hawk paddle that fits all my 1911's from FS to 3 inch.

kb2wji
11-02-2012, 10:58 AM
I just picked up a Stellar Rigs paddle for the PM9. It's nice, but I dont know if it justifies the price tag. It seems to fit my K9 pretty well, but I dont know if i'll use it for the K9 since its "meant" for the PM9. Any input on that? Will I screw up the holster using it with a K9 ?

pudge
11-02-2012, 02:22 PM
JFootin,

"I have also looked at holsters with snap loops. The Mitch Rosen Premier holster on the Kahr website is interesting, a less expensive version of a $160 holster for $90. Not bad. I also found this IWB holster that I am very close to buying. It is the TT Gunleather EC Mike's Special Slim IWB Holster (http://www.ttgunleather.com/catalog/i116.html), another less expensive version of a more expensive holster, and it is also thinner..."

I also have little satisfaction with IWB holsters, no doubt due to the less than svelte shape of my old body and the fact that in my lifetime, I've never had a pair of britches with any spare room in the waistband. But I have had considerable experience with a particular TTGunleather OWB holster. I'm not suggesting you try it, but I am stating that you will NOT be disappointed with the construction and quality of a TTGunleather holster.

I own five of Tim's DDOO OWB holsters plus a belt that he made for me. The quality and comfort and utility of these products has made me a fan of his for life! I have worn a very great many holster and belt products in my lifetime (and I'm qualified for the government health care program at this time!). I can say that I've never owned a better holster or belt, and I can say that I've never done business with anyone with more satisfaction than with Tim and his products that I have owned and used. I have experience with a very few others that may approach my experience with Tim, but they certainly do not exceed my experience with him. I believe you can purchase this holster from him with full confidence that you will be satisfied with the experience. Can't say whether you will be satisfied with the style or not, but you won't send it back because of poor quality or construction.

JFootin
11-02-2012, 03:46 PM
Pudge,

That TT Mike's Special looks great. I got mine from James Dean at a great price and back when his lead time wasn't bad. Based on my experience with my holster, you are going to love that one!

I am thinking about getting another gun belt. I ordered one that turned out to be 1 5/16" wide when I ordered it 1 1/2" wide. You just don't do that when making gun belts! I complained, tried to get him to make me another one, but he refunded my money instead. I use it, but it doesn't work as well as a 1 1/2" belt would. I'll look at Tim's belts, but I was leaning towards Jason Winnie, Don Hume's nephew.

Chogers
11-02-2012, 05:11 PM
Where were you guys when I was asking about a good OWB Holster for my PM9? Mr. JohnH you nailed the description of how I would like my OWB to be also.
And JFootin...check out this gun belt. I have the black 1 1/2" and love it! Very well made! http://crossbreedholsters.com/GunBelts/tabid/98/List/0/ProductID/3/CategoryID/1/Category2ID/3/Level/2/Default.aspx?SortField=ProductName,ProductName

Chogers
11-02-2012, 05:30 PM
John, I am surprised that a paddle holster could hold the gun tighter against the body and print less than other OWB holsters. The paddle mechanism usually positions the gun and holster a little bit away from the body. I would think that a properly made Kydex pancake holster would fit closer, such as this one at pjholster.com:

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/John_England/Miscellanious%20Guns%20and%20Holsters/PJPancakeHolster.jpg

Do you see how tight to the body this holster holds the gun? I'll bet it is very comfortable, too, because it is absolutely flat on the back side. I know, it doesn't have the adjustability of your holster, but Paul will make his holster to suit you.

I would like to see pics similar to these of you wearing yours for comparison.


Does Paul still make this style of OWB? I can't seem to find it on his website. Most definatly something I would be interested in even though I just ordered an IWB for my PM9 from him.

JFootin
11-02-2012, 07:37 PM
Does Paul still make this style of OWB? I can't seem to find it on his website. Most definatly something I would be interested in even though I just ordered an IWB for my PM9 from him.

Apparently not. Ask him for further details.

JFootin
11-02-2012, 07:52 PM
Chogers,

I have an OWB holster on order for my new Walther PPQ. The PPQ is a fairly large, double stack gun. So I don't know if I can get comfortable with it IWB. The holster I have chosen is the Aholster Belt Holster (http://www.lefthandholster.com/Belt_Holster_CB81.php). Just read the description and you'll see why I want to give it a try. I'll report on it once I get it and the gun in my possession and can wear and evaluate it. Interestingly, I had emailed him because he didn't list the PPQ. He replied saying that a customer sent him a PPQ to mold a holster for and he was in the act of doing so. Said I should let him know if I want one while he still has the gun. So I said YES! :typing: