CW 45 Going to Kahr

[joe d]

After putting more rounds thru yesterday,problems still persist...I did the slide stop spring fix but to no avail...Mags are REALLY hard to get to click in...You gotta really smack em' in hard...Trigger sticks back and won't return after last round is fired...Lots and lots of plastic shavings flying at me like confetti...Spoke to Ian...He was really cool to deal with...Sent me a prepaid return label...Whenever I've had to call there,I always get him and he's always been good and very helpful...It goes out to them Monday..Aside from the small issues,the gun shot great,was extremely accurate and recoil is surprisingly manageable...I know they'll get it going right... Hopefully it won't be gone too long...

[Bill K]

Sorry you didn't get one that was good to go right out of the box. Kahr should be able to get it up and running for you. Please keep us informed.

[Bawanna]

^^^^ What Bill said.

I guess I totally blew my prediction that it was gonna be a runner on this one.

They'll get it running for you, and it'll be worth the wait.

[gb6491]

Joe,
Sorry to read of your CW45 issues.

If you don't mind me asking, which slide stop spring fix did you do?

The magazine being hard to insert might be caused by the bevel (or lack of one) on the slide's stripper rail. http://kahrtalk.com/showpost.php?p=15671&postcount=4

I read your other post about the trigger not returning after the last round is fired. It reads as if this happening with the slide locked back. If this is the case, then it's not really a problem. When the slide is locked back, the disconnector is pushed down by it. With disconnector pushed down, the trigger cannot reset so it doesn't matter where it is at. Now with that said, in a perfect world your trigger should come forward when released. The enemy here is friction. The top of the disconnector is rubbing/dragging/sliding along the bottom of the slide under pressure by the trigger bar spring. Where the spring contacts the trigger bar is also a friction point . If you like you might polish/lube the friction points in hope that the trigger might go forward by it's own spring pressure (the trigger on my CW45 only returns a slight amount). The important thing is that once the slide is forward, the trigger returns.

I've no real answer for the poly shavings other than to say that it usually from the poly installation rails and that it stops once those mate with the slide.

Regards,
Greg

[TheTman]

If it's any comfort, they did quit a bit of work on my CW45 and had it back exactly 1 week from when I sent it in.

[jocko]

joe d. I would think the reason the mag is going in to hard might be that the bottom of the magazine is hitting the bottom of the grip/magwell. check to see if that be the case.

the trigger should fully return with the slide locked open. It indeed could be friction related. again since it is going back I guess it will be a mute point but I always put a dab of grease on that top part of the trigger bar that is visible at the back right side of the frame.

[joe d]

If you don't mind me asking, which slide stop spring fix did you do?I tried the one in your CW45 fix post..I removed /reinstalled and tighened a little so it looked more like the one in the pic...I couldn't make it work though...As far as the trigger resetting,I didn't know that was the norm...I'm comparing here by the performance of my CM9 in which there were none of these problems...I'll read the link you posted in your reply and see what goes on there..As I stated,I feel these are really small issues that I'm sure will be sorted out easily...My CM9 is such a good performer I felt that this is the way the gun is supposed to run...Greg,all of yours and Jocko's fix-it posts are incredibly helpful and informative,as is everybody's input and knowledge on this forum..the concern and advice here is always much appreciated...I'll look them over again...I don't mind that it needs to go back for a tune up...With Kahr doing their thing to it I know it'll get checked and be done right...Not hit and miss with me so much...:confused:


If it's any comfort, they did quit a bit of work on my CW45 and had it back exactly 1 week from when I sent it inThanks...That's what I'm hoping for...

[joe d]

Thanks Jocko, I'll have a look...I tried to check out everything at the range and couldn't see anything but I'll look some more...


I always put a dab of grease on that top part of the trigger bar that is visible at the back right side of the frame.

I did lube that part of the trigger bar (an probably more )before I went out again...Still sticking though...

[jocko]

the trigger should return fully, slide open, slide closed. With the slide off the gun, does it do OK. Is the trigger pull smooth with no grabbing sensation to it?? If so then it has to be something in the slide IMO. check to see if that cut on the right rear section of the slide where that trigger bar exposes itself and fits in that cut out area. se eif there are any sharp burrs there.

If all this checks out, let kahr have a look at it on their dime. Who knows u couldhave an out of spec slide that only kahr can tell. We can't. gbe sure to put everything it is doing in writing for the kahr techs to see and start looking at. they are good at just replacing parts until the issue goes away, again a feature that we cannot afford to do on our dime. It wouldnot be the first slide that was ever replaced. U have the right attitude with kahr in letting them fix it, if we can't help u. Some get pissed and so bent out of shape..

[gb6491]

joe d,
Thanks for the kind words; much appreciated.
I don't know if you saw the video link in my post about tightening the slide stop spring, but it explains a little better what helped with my CW45.
To further elaborate on how the trigger on my CW45 acts with the slide locked back: when released, it goes to a position that is about vertical. I can push it forward to the reset position and if I pull it again/release, it will usually return to a position closer to there (movement of the trigger against it's spring feels mushy). My CW9, by comparison, will have the trigger move back to the reset position just as your CM9 does (pulling the trigger again the spring action feels crisp). Again, that is how they should work, I'm just saying it doesn't matter if they don't as long as their triggers move freely forward to the reset position with the slide forward (as both my CW9 and 45 do).
I'm sure Kahr will get it right for you.
Regards,
Greg

[joe d]

With the slide off the gun, does it do OK. Is the trigger pull smooth with no grabbing sensation to it??

Yes...Trigger is smooth as silk with the slide off...