Kel Tec Sub 2000

[melissa5]

Anyone have one of these? If so, I'd like to hear the good and the bad about them. I'm thinking that this might be a good thing to keep in my truck. It folds up to about 16 inches and can use Glock 17 or 18 magazines. 33 rounds of 9mm would be sweet!

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10897&stc=1&d=1172557748

[JFootin]

It also can use the 32 round mags. Inexpensive, and the folding feature is nice. I want to get one. If you buy one and don't like it, will you sell it to me half price?

[melissa5]

It also can use the 32 round mags. Inexpensive, and the folding feature is nice. I want to get one. If you buy one and don't like it, will you sell it to me half price?

What? :der:

I'm wondering if the Sub 2000 would fit inside of a deep dish pizza box? Who would break into your truck to steal a pizza? :D

[JFootin]

What? :der:

I'm wondering if the Sub 2000 would fit inside of a deep dish pizza box? Who would break into your truck to steal a pizza? :D

Somebody that's hungry enough. :rolleyes:

[mr surveyor]

I had a Sub2K with Beretta grip that I bought off the used shelf for 2-3 years. It was a great shooter and functioned well with proper ammunition. No Aluminum cased ammo due to the blowback design and the timing of the action, aluminum cases could potentially have a catastrophic failure (just fyi).

And, as for packing, it is great. I ran across a flat, zippered canvas bag that looked 20-30 years old, with sheepskin liner and leather edging outside. Dimensions were perfect for the S2K and 18" x 12".

If the magazine fits the grip/mag catch, it should work. I had a few of cheap 30 round Beretta style mags (pretty sure they were the older cheap promags) that weren't worth the $15 @ that I paid for them, and I probably still have a couple somewhere.

I ended up trading the S2K for a NIB P32 for mrs surv.... she still has it. A year or so later I bought a Beretta Storm CX4 and had it for 2-3 years. After I realized I had little need for a pistol round "long gun" that could be better replaced by a 12 ga shorty, the CX4 was traded off. I do wish I'd kept the old S2K though since it did pack so well and fit almost anywhere in my pickup.


surv

[melissa5]

They must be good guns because no one seems to have them in stock. :(

[BBSky]

I have 2 of them, one in 9 and one in 40. They are available in several different mag configs but mine are Glock. Don't own any Glocks though!
I have waited for years for them to come out with a .45 version...still waiting.
BTW when folded they fit in a computer laptop bag, of course that left in a car is a banner for "steal me", the pizza box might be ok, something labeled "dirty diapers" might be a good deterrent:D

[Lobo_79]

Anyone have one of these? If so, I'd like to hear the good and the bad about them. I'm thinking that this might be a good thing to keep in my truck. It folds up to about 16 inches and can use Glock 17 or 18 magazines. 33 rounds of 9mm would be sweet!

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10897&stc=1&d=1172557748

I have one of these in 9mm - Glock Mag version. It's accurate, reliable and easily concealable in a back pack or brief case. It also has some pretty cheesy sights on it but they seem to work. Even in the 9mm caliber it has a bit of recoil.

THis carbine has been more of a novelty to me. I don't shoot it much even though it's a lot of fun.
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz154/Lobo_79/Keltec%20Sub2000/Keltec_Sub2000_Kit2.jpg

[melissa5]

I saw this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ87nsuyNpY on youtube and the guy has his Sub 2000 tricked out with better sights and a silencer. That's the video that started me thinking about the Sub 2000.

[JFootin]

Let's see. 31 x 15(?) + 14 x 6(?) = 549 rounds of loaded ammo in that case! (And I'm probably under counting.) Plus, a suppressor with adapters to fit both guns. I'll just bet A.T.F. and Homeland Security are actively watching this guy!

[Rainman48314]

What? :der:

I'm wondering if the Sub 2000 would fit inside of a deep dish pizza box? Who would break into your truck to steal a pizza? :DI read it carries real nice folded in a laptop case. Of course laptops are a prime theft target. Just keep it with you. Worst case, these are $290 of fun, fun , fun! I want one but need to handle it in the flesh first. Can't locate one here in SE Michigan.

PS. Lots of cold pizza lovers out there

[melissa5]

Let's see. 31 x 15(?) + 14 x 6(?) = 549 rounds of loaded ammo in that case! (And I'm probably under counting.) Plus, a suppressor with adapters to fit both guns. I'll just bet A.T.F. and Homeland Security are actively watching this guy!

Probably...he just got banned from the Georgia forum that I read. He's a nut!

OK, how about keeping it in a red box that says "medical waste"? :eek:

[Rainman48314]

Let's see. 31 x 15(?) + 14 x 6(?) = 549 rounds of loaded ammo in that case! (And I'm probably under counting.) Plus, a suppressor with adapters to fit both guns. I'll just bet A.T.F. and Homeland Security are actively watching this guy!
What do you estimate his entire rig and case weighs?

[JFootin]

What do you estimate his entire rig and case weighs?

I'll let you figure that out. :p

[JFootin]

Probably...he just got banned from the Georgia forum that I read. He's a nut!

OK, how about keeping it in a red box that says "medical waste"? :eek:

You know, the pizza box will work if it is sitting upright behind your seat. Anybody would know it doesn't have edible pizza in it unless it is sitting flat on the passenger seat wrapped in a bag with a receipt fresh from the pizza place.

[SmokingGun]

Heartily recommended! Great shooter / lots of fun!

[gb6491]

Another satisfied SUB-2000 (9MM) owner here. I really like mine: lightweight, easy to store, reliable, adequate capacity, magazine compatibility with a sidearm, and surprisingly accurate.
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This review (while for a .40) pretty much echos my experience with the SUB-2000: http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/08/captain-john-raguso/gun-review-kel-tec-sub-2000-40/
One thing they do kind of gloss over is the front sight. It's sort of a funky arraignment (adjustable for windage and elevation) that some people have reported as being fragile. I haven't had any problem with mine, but thought I would toss that out there. Good photos of the sight in this article:
http://www.mouseguns.com/sub2000/sub2000.htm
The forearm that guy has on his SUB-2000 in the link Melissa posted cost about a third of what the gun costs, but is a pretty nice product. The company that makes it also makes a replacement front sight: http://www.redlionprecision.com/
For some, accessorizing the SUB can be addicting (mind you, I'm not knocking them for it as I've perused this thread quite a few times:)):
http://www.thektog.org/forum/showthread.php?t=231168
FWIW, the Glock magazine SUB-2000 comes in two pistol grip lengths: G17 and G19. It would be no big chore to cut the G17 version down to G19 size if that's what you prefer and cannot find the G19 version. For reference, mine is the G17 version.
Regards,
Greg