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Charlie98
11-07-2011, 07:03 PM
I picked up my first Kahr last week, a lightly used CW9, and took it out today for a run.

It shoots point of aim at 15ft, but beyond that the pistol really shot low, about 4-6" low at 25ft, etc. I was shooting 115grn WWB FMJ's. On the bright side, I was very, very pleased with how it shot, very comfortable in the hand, not snappy (like I would have expected a .40 to be) and not one malfunction in 170 rounds.

I put 150rds FMJ through it, and 20 Hornady TAP 147grn JHP's. At 15' I put 4 rounds into one hole, only pulling the 5th left (still getting used to the trigger vs a 1911.)

Has anyone noticed a big difference in point-of-impact with the CW9 and heavier vs lighter bullets?

First 4 mags through the new pistol...

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x39/Charlie_98/Kahrfirsttarget004.jpg

Tilos
11-07-2011, 07:51 PM
"Has anyone noticed a big difference in point-of-impact with the CW9 and heavier vs lighter bullets?"
Yes,not just the cw9 though, all guns and more so the shorter the barrel.
I think it has to do with recoil and "barrel time".
Tilos

OrlandoChuck
11-07-2011, 08:32 PM
I've had my CW9 a short time too. I have shot 115gr and 147gr with no noticeable difference. It shoots exactly where I point it. I love it.

tv_racin_fan
11-07-2011, 09:41 PM
I dunno what to tell ya. Might be you are doing what my wife does when she really tries to bear down and shoot. She tends to pull the nose down just at the last instant which I believe is due to the long trigger pull and her trying to go real slow and stay on target. If she simply points and pulls the trigger a bit faster she does fine.

patbelly
11-07-2011, 11:48 PM
I think when shooting at farther distances some people have a tendency to try to push the bullet/gun the extra distance and unknowingly lower the pistol at the last second. Just a thought.

MW surveyor
11-08-2011, 04:38 AM
Here's my theory. FWIW

When you shoot slow, you are unconsciously lowering the gun just as you make the shot to see where the round hits. When you shoot fast(er) you concentrate on holding the gun on target so the rounds usually go to point of aim.

Shooting slow, remember to follow through with the shot for at least one second after the bang. I have a bad habit with this and have to keep repeating to myself....follow through when shooting slow.

Charlie98
11-08-2011, 08:12 AM
The first few mags I noticed I was pulling down at the last moment before letoff... as I said, going from a tuned 1911 SA trigger to this is a bit of a change. But once I identified that, I was able to conciously counter that, at least in slow, aimed fire.

I fired 50 rounds at the 3 distances needed to qualify for the TX CHL (9', 21', 45')and even shooting low, I was able to keep them inside the 8-ring. At 45' I was aiming at the throat and hitting COM, but it worked...

Ammo testing is continuing...

Charlie98
11-08-2011, 08:14 AM
Shooting slow, remember to follow through with the shot for at least one second after the bang. I have a bad habit with this and have to keep repeating to myself....follow through when shooting slow.

Very true!!! I remember reading a Ross Seyfried article many years ago that addressed that very issue... and he was correct from what I've been able to find, even shooting through a scope.

MW surveyor
11-08-2011, 08:25 AM
I fired 50 rounds at the 3 distances needed to qualify for the TX CHL (9', 21', 45')and even shooting low, I was able to keep them inside the 8-ring. At 45' I was aiming at the throat and hitting COM, but it worked....

Charlie9B, As you might guess, I've got my Texas CHL. In any event, don't sweat the firing part of the test. They will not keep or give you your score as it is either pass or fail. You've got to miss the GIANT target to fail. The 9' and 21' will be the majority of the rounds fired. I really believe that even if you missed all of the 45' but hit well on the closer targets, you would pass easily.

BTW - I always get perfect one shot groups. It's that second shot that screws it up :31:

Charlie98
11-08-2011, 08:43 AM
Charlie9B, As you might guess, I've got my Texas CHL. In any event, don't sweat the firing part of the test. They will not keep or give you your score as it is either pass or fail. You've got to miss the GIANT target to fail. The 9' and 21' will be the majority of the rounds fired. I really believe that even if you missed all of the 45' but hit well on the closer targets, you would pass easily.

BTW - I always get perfect one shot groups. It's that second shot that screws it up :31:

No, I've had my CHL for 6 years, I recerted last year. I always thought the 3 distances they used were a pretty good barometer for combat accuracy, so that's what I use. Because the Kahr replaced my mormal carry piece, a 4" Kimber, I feel compelled to practice a bit with it to make sure I can qualify (besides the obvious reasons...) With the Kimber, I think I could probably qualify with my eyes closed... :third: ... but we are going to have to work a bit with the Kahr.

I have seen some of the other shooter's targets... and wondered if they qualified. Let's just put it this way, I wouldn't want to be standing within a 45^ angle to their muzzle... :o