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pur4
11-11-2011, 11:27 PM
Hi, I have gotten a Kahr CM9 for about a month now everything is great I can even sling shot the slide. Though I'm just alittle unhappy about 2 scratches that is located on my ploymer frame. I was wondering anyone on here bought a Kahr with scratches on it? I'm just curious to see if scratches on Kahr are located at the same spot on majority of them. Hope you guys can show me the scratches on your Kahr. Thank you!!

Rainman48314
11-12-2011, 12:23 AM
Hi, I have gotten a Kahr CM9 for about a month now everything is great I can even sling shot the slide. Though I'm just alittle unhappy about 2 scratches that is located on my ploymer frame. I was wondering anyone on here bought a Kahr with scratches on it? I'm just curious to see if scratches on Kahr are located at the same spot on majority of them. Hope you guys can show me the scratches on your Kahr. Thank you!!My two tone PM9 is cosmetically perfect. Are you refering to the index marks needed to field strip the gun? They, of course, belong and are not flaws.

Seems to me that you need to post the first pictures.

sierrajb
11-12-2011, 02:49 PM
If the gun runs perfectly, I would tolerate a couple of scratches. Just my two cents of course. The last guy who had a perfect running Kahr but didn't like the finish on his slide wasted a lot of time sending it back to Kahr several times. It you want a show piece, consider buying a fancy 1911. This is a good year for that with the 1911 - 2011 hundred year anniversary. ;)

Correction, please. I was the last guy on this forum who was not pleased with the cosmetics of my perfectly sound PM9. I sent Kahr the pictures and in five days I had a brand new, perfectly showpiece quality PM9. Sending Kahr your concerns and your pictures is NOT a waste of time. Give it a try. Kahr cares.

OldLincoln
11-12-2011, 03:21 PM
Don't disagree with either one, but be aware about the only thing Kahr can do is replace the poly frame which means new serial number and thus new trip to your FFL, new registration and background check fees. That is on your dime not theirs.

Rainman48314
11-12-2011, 03:34 PM
If the gun runs perfectly, I would tolerate a couple of scratches. Just my two cents of course. The last guy who had a perfect running Kahr but didn't like the finish on his slide wasted a lot of time sending it back to Kahr several times. It you want a show piece, consider buying a fancy 1911. This is a good year for that with the 1911 - 2011 hundred year anniversary. ;)I would agree, especially on a Carry piece. Inside a week, Kydex can leave fine scratches near the muzzle. Its not so much the kydex as it is gritty residue becoming sandpaper.

This thread needs a picture.

Rainman48314
11-12-2011, 03:38 PM
Correction, please. I was the last guy on this forum who was not pleased with the cosmetics of my perfectly sound PM9. I sent Kahr the pictures and in five days I had a brand new, perfectly showpiece quality PM9. Sending Kahr your concerns and your pictures is NOT a waste of time. Give it a try. Kahr cares.Yes, you were indeed the last we've read about on the forum. Immediately before you there was another gun sent to Kahr and the owner was unhappy with the repair. He was not issued a new slide. He sold the gun and left the forum.

Kahr PM9s and CM9s are CARRY guns. They will not stay cosmetically perfect for long. I'd take a perfectly functioning gun over a pretty one in a hearbeat. Carry guns are tools.

muggsy
11-13-2011, 08:38 AM
I've gotten a few bumps and bruises along the way, but the "old lady" still keeps me around. :)

pur4
11-13-2011, 10:54 PM
muggsy I would like to see pictures of the bruises lol

DoubleSawbuck
11-14-2011, 07:26 AM
Don't disagree with either one, but be aware about the only thing Kahr can do is replace the poly frame which means new serial number and thus new trip to your FFL, new registration and background check fees. That is on your dime not theirs.

This differs from state to state... I've had a gun replaced by the manufacturer in the past, no FFL required.

Ressom
11-14-2011, 07:29 AM
Flitz polish says it works on plastic. I personally have never tried it on plastic, but it may be worth looking into. The thing I would worry about is making the spot you are using it on shinny.

garyb
11-14-2011, 09:46 AM
No scratches any where on my PM4044N (black diamond coat) after over a year of hard use and everyday carry. Wears like iron. Covered the grip with AGRIP and it is wearing like iron too. Kahr is an excellent product and they will take care of yours if you bring it to their attention. I feel they do care. I inspect my new firearms before I put the rest of my money on the table. If I am not happy, I'll wait for another to arrive.

MLESa7990
11-14-2011, 11:35 AM
I think that actually happened in 1999. Nevertheless, a bad situation.

DoubleSawbuck
11-14-2011, 03:13 PM
And, from manufacturer to manufacturer. Kahr insists on shipping newly replaced frames (thus new serial numbered, repaired guns) through an FFL to all destinations, regardless of state laws.

Their seemingly over-cautious approach may be the result of the legal issues they faced when one of their employees was caught stealing and selling un-serialized guns a few years ago. :eek:

good to know, thanks.... It's a shame they'd pass that cost on to their customer if they had to replace a defective product.

Rainman48314
11-14-2011, 08:43 PM
And, from manufacturer to manufacturer. Kahr insists on shipping newly replaced frames (thus new serial numbered, repaired guns) through an FFL to all destinations, regardless of state laws.

Their seemingly over-cautious approach may be the result of the legal issues they faced when one of their employees was caught stealing and selling un-serialized guns a few years ago. :eek:I'm not so sure they are being overly cautious. At least for States were guns are registered, this is a legal MUST. SIG did the same to me when they replaced a P238 with a fractured frame.

Bawanna
11-15-2011, 12:18 AM
It's a Federal Law, not optional. A new serialized part like a Kahr frame is just like sending a new gun and has to be registered.

Any manufacturer who does not do so is in for large trouble.

That's the one reason I can't get a kahr frame to make grips on. It's a serialized part. If a frame don't make the grade it is completly destroyed.

pur4
11-15-2011, 12:49 AM
So many debates but no pictures... I'm so depressed.

DoubleSawbuck
11-15-2011, 05:26 AM
It's a Federal Law, not optional. A new serialized part like a Kahr frame is just like sending a new gun and has to be registered.

Any manufacturer who does not do so is in for large trouble.

That's the one reason I can't get a kahr frame to make grips on. It's a serialized part. If a frame don't make the grade it is completly destroyed.

Sorry to veer off-topic but...

there is no Federal gun registration, cite your source please.

Gun registration is actually illegal here in PA

http://reference.pafoa.org/statutes/PA/18/II/G/61/A/6111.4/registration-of-firearms/

jeffe007
11-15-2011, 06:07 PM
ill check the 1968 GCA and other subsequent federal laws. i just finished law school and a firearms law class and i swear that there was an exemption for this type of service. but i could be wrong ill chk batfe regs too.

racuda
11-15-2011, 07:27 PM
Why can't they move an old serial number to a new frame?

sierrajb
11-15-2011, 09:51 PM
So many debates but no pictures... I'm so depressed.

Agreed. Show me the pics! (please)