Range Report Third Try

[John Law]

I would like to thank all the members for their suggestions and help in trying to get my PM45 up and running, also Kahr CS and the Tech who worked on my gun.. The following report may be a bit lengthy I apologize.
OK, now the good news, today was a success.
First let me mention that I am not sure what the exact cause of the problems were, if I had to guess I'd say there were several small issues that combined caused one big problem, FTF.
I think issue number one was that the gun was extremely tight and needed a lot more than 200 rounds to loosen up.
Issue number two I think was ammo related
Issue number three I am wondering if the mag springs were just to stiff from being new. Sycko Smoker mentioned checking the mags, which I did, all looked OK but I decided to load the mags and let them sit with a full clip.
Issue number four, again a guess, lubrication, I saw one member mentioned Kahrs should be run more wet. I tried a lighter grease this time and a bit more of it.
Today went well, here is what I shot and the results:
Speer Lawman FMJ 230 gr Fired 30 rds ... Flawless
Federal Champion FMJ 230 gr Fired 25 rds ... Flawless
WWB FMJ 230 gr Fired 15 rds ... Oops 1 FTF
Remington UMC FMJ 230 gr Fired 25 rds ... Oops 1 FTE
Federal HST JHP 230 gr Fired 15 rds... Flawless
Speer Gold Dot JHP 200 gr +P Fired 5 rds ... Flawless
WWB ..After the one FTF I had no other problems with the remaining 12 rds. Interestingly when I went to clear the jam, as soon as I went to drop the mag the round fed. Not like previous jams that required dropping the mag and pulling the slide back to clear the cartridge.
UMC.. the empty casing didnt clear the slide when ejecting and hung up, I think I relaxed my grip because this never happened before.
Speer GD.. I dont know if the PM 45 is +P rated so I did not shoot any more than 5 rds
Observations... I think a few more rounds to loosen up a bit more and the
gun will be 100%
Recoil... I didnt find recoil objectionable maybe about like an MK40,
more of a push than a snappy twist.
The PM 45 has a tendency to rub the knuckle on my
thumb raw so I put a LimbSaver on and that helped.
Model # 12013
JL

[Hognutz]

Looks like your closing in on it, John..A few more rounds may be all that is needed..Good luck..Mike

[Bawanna]

Excellent news John Law. Kahrs are in fact ok with +P ammo but I never use it. I use standard Speer Gold dot. If you like the +P, go for it.

Gotta agree with Hognutz, I think your closing in on it and it's so nice it didn't have to make another trip back east. That's priceless.

[John Law]

Bawanna,
It is good that I wont have to send it back, especially since its been at Kahr longer than with me. The Gold Dot I tested today was a fluke because I never use +P ammo. I have no idea where I got this +P from, probably when I was on the PD. Since I had no other GD I tried it for function, nasty just nasty. My carry rounds are always standard pressure & always Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot regardless of caliber. The only +P I sometimes use is 9mm 124+P only when I cant get the 147 std pressure. I thank everyone for the help. JL

[O'Dell]

Darn, the more I read about you guy's PM45, the more I get the urge to replace mine. Why should you have all the fun? I wish Kahr would hurry and introduce the CM45, or I just might have to spring for a PM.

[Ikeo74]

John, It makes all of us posters feel good when a fellow Kahr owner and member finds solutions to their problems, Congratulations,:cheer2: and we hope your next range trip is 100%.

[John Law]

O'Dell, sometimes its not all that much fun when there are problems. Looks like mine have been worked out so I feel pretty good right now, like Ikeo said, everyone feels good when the solution is found. JL

[OldLincoln]

Thanks for the feedback John. You have a late bloomer there but it's a star now.

[O'Dell]

O'Dell, sometimes its not all that much fun when there are problems. Looks like mine have been worked out so I feel pretty good right now, like Ikeo said, everyone feels good when the solution is found. JL

I know John and I sympathize. It's been several years and literally dozens of pistols since I had a real problem gun, and time dims the frustrations. I'm glad you seem to be over your hurdles with the PM45. I've been lucky with Kahrs, I've had five, and never had a problem, so that explains my enthusiasm for them. I guess I'm assuming my luck will continue.

[ltxi]

Thumb...knuckle...raw thingy. I figured out about three years ago I simply need to put a band-aid there before any extended range session with a Kahr.

[John Law]

O'Dell,
I have a PM9 that has been flawless, it just took a bit to get the 45 right. I'll put another 100 or so rounds of FMJ through it and if I get no failures then some HST. If the HST shoot like the ones I shot today it will be my CCW. This was a good learning experience for me. I was also going to tell you to get the PM45 and not wait to see if they bring out the CM, life is to short. JL