Gun shop tried to steer me to LC9

[gator1gear]

I'm in Hiram ,Ga and when I went to the gun shop to buy a pocketable 9 mm handgun, I looked at the LC9 and the CM9. The staff there did everything they could to persuade me to get the LC9. I am so happy that I went with the CM9 instead! I absolutely LOVE this gun! I'm not saying there's anything wrong with LC9, just proud of my purchase!!

[cw45fan]

Cool... They probably have a slightly higher profit margin on the LC9... Often, that's all it takes... Net feedback on the CM9 so far seems generally very good...

[Markis82]

Cool... They probably have a slightly higher profit margin on the LC9... Exactly!! I've seen the same thing at Gun Shops I've been in, salesmen trying to push customers toward the LC9. It is very difficult to keep my mouth shut when I've seen it. "Look, it has a thumb safety, which you really need, bla, bla..." Unfortunately most of the customers I've seen this happen to, were not knowledgeable enough to wade thru the BS.

[Thunder71]

Good move, in my opinion.

Congrats on a fine purchase!

[TeaQue]

After comparing the trigger I don't know how anyone could choose the LC9 over the Kahr. You made a good choice :)

[Tkr reptiles]

Congrats! A LOT of places get incentives for selling Ruger products... The salesmen get free guns for so many Ruger guns sold, etc... That is probably why they were pushing it on you...

[bonjorno2]

cm9 is the way to go!

[mser]

Can't blame the sales person. Doing their job. It boils down to caveat emptor. Do your homework and if your still not sure then seek the advice of someone who's qualified and advice you trust.

[TheTman]

I bought the LC9 because it had the features I wanted in pocketable gun. The trigger is a bit heavy, I guess someone is doing "hammer jobs" now to make the trigger smoother. I think the Kahr is going to be much more accurate out of the box with it's smooth trigger, but the LC9 has had about 300 rounds through it now without a hiccup. I'm getting used to the trigger and the groups are closing up. It's been a totally reliable little pistol from day 1. Plus it was $120 less than the CM9.

[Bawanna]

I've found that gun salesman are reluctant to really push guns they aren't familiar with also. Kahr isn't really a house hold name YET, but everybody knows Ruger. In some ways that's good thing, you can wear their hat without being labeled a gun dude.

[Hognutz]

You did the right thing. Nothing against the LC9, but the CM9 will do you proud..Mike

[Bear549]

After comparing the trigger I don't know how anyone could choose the LC9 over the Kahr. You made a good choice :)

Here..here...

[Rio Vista Slim]

I've found that gun salesman are reluctant to really push guns they aren't familiar with also. Kahr isn't really a house hold name YET, but everybody knows Ruger. In some ways that's good thing, you can wear their hat without being labeled a gun dude.

I think Bawanna is on to something here!

When I bought my CM9, my local gun shop guy was hesitant to recommend the pistol. I can understand this, as I've bought a lot of guns from this shop in the past.

However, I made certain to report to him the excellent results I've gotten with the new Kahr. As a result, he has ordered more from his distributors.

[John222]

I had the same results from BassPro. They strongly tried to steer me to the Ruger LC9. But the fit, finish and good looks along with positive reviews here told me otherwise. Plus the Ruger isn't that much cheaper. Considering the Ruger ships with one mag and the Kahr currently has a free offer, the price difference is only $25.

[Bawanna]

I think Bawanna is on to something here!

When I bought my CM9, my local gun shop guy was hesitant to recommend the pistol. I can understand this, as I've bought a lot of guns from this shop in the past.

However, I made certain to report to him the excellent results I've gotten with the new Kahr. As a result, he has ordered more from his distributors.

Way to get r dun Rio. Getting the shops familiar with Kahrs is the ticket to getting them more locally available.
One of my FFL guys won't carry them, says they are too expensive. Ironically I bought my first Kahr a K40 from him. When I wanted my PM45 he said too expensive so I said ok and went and got it elsewhere. Some people are willing to pay.
Small guys I'm sure don't like having so much tied up in inventory but you gotta have what folks really need. I'm reluctant to say want since this same guy seems to cater the inexpensive stuff. Jimenez, KT, stuff that may work but isn't great. Certainly not the stuff reputations should be based on.

[TheTman]

I had 2 Kahrs, and wanted to branch out into another brand, so I tried the LC9, and it's been great. I don't see the point in having too many of one make of gun, Maybe Colt or S&W for collection value.
One I wish I could give back is that Diamondback DB9, I can't shoot it for crap, and other shooters put mag after mag downrange with no problems. I think my hands are too small and arthritic, and the handle flexes too much for me and it jams up. On the DB board one guy even said to watch the flexing at the elbows as that may cause it not to function, so now we have limp elbowing??? Geezus, can a person move at all when they shoot that gun? Oh well, it's on Armslist, with a blurb that you need big strong non-arthritic hands to shoot it properly. I may have to take a loss on that one, oh well, done pretty good on some others.

[rogerthedodger]

I think the LC9 is 7+1 rounds and the CM9/PM9 is 6+1 rounds?? Also, LC9 includes a pinky extension for the mag. I own both a PM9 and a LC9, both are excellant guns. Also, they both fit my pocketholsters.com front pocket holster.:D

[jocko]

I had 2 Kahrs, and wanted to branch out into another brand, so I tried the LC9, and it's been great. I don't see the point in having too many of one make of gun, Maybe Colt or S&W for collection value.
One I wish I could give back is that Diamondback DB9, I can't shoot it for crap, and other shooters put mag after mag downrange with no problems. I think my hands are too small and arthritic, and the handle flexes too much for me and it jams up. On the DB board one guy even said to watch the flexing at the elbows as that may cause it not to function, so now we have limp elbowing??? Geezus, can a person move at all when they shoot that gun? Oh well, it's on Armslist, with a blurb that you need big strong non-arthritic hands to shoot it properly. I may have to take a loss on that one, oh well, done pretty good on some others.

u own two nice pocket guns, now give me some personal opinions from each, pros and cons. forget about beingon a kahr forum, u always shoot straight so "shoot straight". I have never shot the lc9, not heard any bad things about it. Most pocket 9j's are waht they are mostly pocketable but every gun as u know has its own quirks. Kahrs are no different. some hate the long triggers in kahrs, that is a quirk for some..

[jlottmc]

If some one tried to steer me toward a gun, I'd have kicked them in the pills. I go to a gun shop, and I know what I want. I may go to do some research, and may check out the competition, but generally don't steer me toward anything. I've actually walked out of places that have tried to steer me or my wife before and not come back. I love Rugers, I love Kahrs, but I also know what I want. I'm waiting for an LC40 personally. Of course I have a couple of Rugers on the wish list right now, but I'm going to do the long gun thing first (need an AR, and AK, some other semi rifles would be nice too).

[Micha2u]

I was at the pistol range last July and the guy next to me was shooting his new Ruger LC9 for the first time. He was having quite a bit of difficulty understanding the mechanism and handling it properly. After noticing that I was watching him he asked me if I could give him some help. We went through safe handling, loading, grip, etc. and I stood back to watch.

The long trigger pull was amazing and he pulled up short of firing thinking that something was wrong with his gun but I assured him that the LC9 was made that way. He finally shot a few round down range but the target was a virgin after three magazines.

He asked me to fire the gun to see what luck I could have and I shot it 3 times. I didn’t like the long trigger pull but all of my shots hit the target a bit left of center in a nice group.

With Wisconsin joining the concealed carry states I had been wanting to get a small concealable handgun in 9mm. I sat back and thought about thumb safety, magazine disconnect, long trigger on the Ruger LC9 and made a decision at that time to purchase a Kahr CM9 that I was contemplating.



I like a gun that is simple to operate and goes bang when you pull the trigger without all of the other “safety” mechanisms. I had my new CM9 within about a week and haven’t looked back since.

By the way, The last time I ran into the guy with the LC9 he indicated he traded it in on a Glock 17.

[Hognutz]

Boy, to go from a pocket LC9 to a Glock 17 is quite a jump. I guess he was done with the pocket carry thing..Mike

[Micha2u]

That is quite a jump and I just shook my head when he told me that as the size and safety mechanisms are on the opposite ends of the 9mm scale.
He was shooting it better than the LC9...at least I saw some holes in his paper this time.

I have 7 Ruger firearms (3 handguns and 4 long guns) so I like Ruger for their reliability and ruggedness. For concealed carry in a single stack 9mm, the Kahr CM9 (or PM9) can't be beat in my opinion.

[dirksterg30]

After comparing the trigger I don't know how anyone could choose the LC9 over the Kahr. You made a good choice :)

The trigger and all the lawyer crap the LC9 has on it made it a no go for me. I had a gun store employee try to sell me on the LC9. I commented on the unnecessary lock/safeties, and he said they were all important features on the gun. I commented that the LCP is a similar gun, similar trigger etc., and Ruger didn't see fit to put any of the lawyer crap on it. He didn't have an answer for that.

[Hognutz]

I agree, totally. I have a several Ruger's, myself, and have no problem with them at all. But, The LC9 does not compare to a PM9 or CM9. Now the guy jumped from a LC9 to a Glock 17. That is not a jump. That is one huge leap...As a matter of fact, I am looking into buying my first Glock, soon. Just not sure what I want..Stay tuned...Mike

[Micha2u]

I don't have a Glock yet either but have been thinking about getting one and have handled a few at the gun shop.

In 9mm, the 19 and 26 are looking pretty sweet...

[JFootin]

I don't have a Glock yet either but have been thinking about getting one and have handled a few at the gun shop.

In 9mm, the 19 and 26 are looking pretty sweet...

A 34 with ported barrel would be a sweet range gun.

[rogerthedodger]

If you are thinking Gen 4 Glock, go over to the glocktalk forum. There seems to be some issues with some models, G17 G19. Also some issues with recent Gen 3's as well. Seems to be extraction probs. Just a FYI.

[Hognutz]

I actually joined up over there. Seems the new Gen. 4's all have the new extractor, so the problems should be over. I am leaning towards a G19 or G23 in the compact, and the G26 or G27 in the sub-compact. Having the PM9, I really don't know if I want/need to go sub. I believe it will be a 19 or 23..Mike

[rogerthedodger]

I actually joined up over there. Seems the new Gen. 4's all have the new extractor, so the problems should be over. I am leaning towards a G19 or G23 in the compact, and the G26 or G27 in the sub-compact. Having the PM9, I really don't know if I want/need to go sub. I believe it will be a 19 or 23..Mike
What I've read, they are taking the new extractors and sanding, flitzing, polishing them to get them to work. Sound familiar, Kahr owners? LOL:D

[Markis82]

I actually joined up over there. Seems the new Gen. 4's all have the new extractor, so the problems should be over. I am leaning towards a G19 or G23 in the compact, and the G26 or G27 in the sub-compact. Having the PM9, I really don't know if I want/need to go sub. I believe it will be a 19 or 23..MikeI have a Glock 19, gen 3. I put on night sights, replaced the plastic guide rod with a captured stainless from BT Guiderods (http://btguiderods.com/category/glock/g19/), replaced the trigger connector with a Ghost Ranger (http://www.ghostinc.com/c=smhMzR9FTk1Ok0mP5pVLyTLhC/product/GHO_GR4/GHOST-RANGER-45-lb-for-Glocks-GEN-1-4.html). However, the only necessity is to replace the stock plastic sights with metal ones. I must say the Glock 19 is the most favorite gun I have ever had. If forced to pick one handgun, the G19 would be my choice. It will bring me to hell and back!!!

[Bill K]

I actually joined up over there. Seems the new Gen. 4's all have the new extractor, so the problems should be over. I am leaning towards a G19 or G23 in the compact, and the G26 or G27 in the sub-compact. Having the PM9, I really don't know if I want/need to go sub. I believe it will be a 19 or 23..Mike

Had I bought my PM9 first I probably would not have my Glock 26. Love my G26 but a G19 or something in .45 ACP would have broadened my carry system.

[Hognutz]

I feel the same way, Bill. I am really leaning towards the 19 or the 23. Just not sure whether I want the 9mm or the .40.. Decisions, decisions..Mike