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JCP281
12-12-2011, 01:01 AM
Looking to get a solid holster for my K40. Looking at this one:

Click me (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/products/Silent-Thunder-IWB.html)

But unsure because iv never heard of them (other than here). If anyone with a K/mk frame could give a review on weight distribution/how it carries that would be great. I searched but didnt find much.

Also, is there a discount code for them someone could PM me? Thanks guys

Bawanna
12-12-2011, 10:20 AM
Looking to get a solid holster for my K40. Looking at this one:

Click me (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/products/Silent-Thunder-IWB.html)

But unsure because iv never heard of the,(other than here). If anyone with a K/mk frame could give a review on weight distribution/how it carries that would be great. I searched but didnt find much.

Also, is there a discount code for them someone could PM me? Thanks guys

I have two of the Silent Thunders, one for a commander and one for a PM45. I like them alot. Rock solid. Shoot them an email, they are genuine good people. Ron and Sheryl know their stuff. I know they have an ongoing discount for LE or Military and they occasionally have sales. If they have one coming up they will usually just give you the discounted price.
They are adjustable for cant, and ride height. I'm really not an IWB kind of guy but I get along just fine with these. The leather lining babies your gun and they fit like they grew around your gun.
No risk either. Buy one, if you don't like it they'll try to make it better or just take it back. Can't go wrong.

Thunder71
12-12-2011, 10:39 AM
I wear an MK9 or PM9 in an IWB and/or OWB Silent Thunder every day... I can't think of anything I'd like better, the leather lined kydex is incredible.

OldLincoln
12-12-2011, 11:31 AM
Garrett Industries has been around for a nearly 5 years and is a solid company run by very good people. Read more about them here (http://garrettindustries.mybigcommerce.com/pages/Garrett-News.html).

Markis82
12-12-2011, 11:54 AM
They seem like a great company with fine products. The holsters are built like iron and should last a lifetime. The fit is fantastic. That said, personally I find the Silent Thunder heavy and bulky. With the kydex being leather lined, it was thick. Plus since it is tuckable, the belt clip attaches to the holster near the bottom and extends upward to the top of the holster. Therefore adding another even thicker layer of kydex, making the thick package thicker. There are many here who just love the holster. I do not. I sold it and bought a PJHolster (http://pjholster.com/) and I'm sooooooo glad I did. I'm not going hijack this thread and expand on my likes of the PJ. But, if you want I'd be glad to.

JCP281
12-12-2011, 10:33 PM
Thanks for yalls help, went with a tucker cover up...seemed like the same think minus the extra thickness of the kydex(Tucker used to make the silent thunder anyways...)

Bawanna
12-12-2011, 10:36 PM
Thanks for yalls help, went with a tucker cover up...seemed like the same think minus the extra thickness of the kydex(Tucker used to make the silent thunder anyways...)

Tucker marketed them, the Garrett's always made them.

OldLincoln
12-12-2011, 11:17 PM
Bawanna is correct. Tucker had a marketing agreement with Garrett for the Silent Thunder. Tucker had an excellent name for quality in the holster industry and it was a great way to get the holsters out there. When Tucker sold his business it was time for Garrett to market on their own. They had already marketed to military and police agencies and have a fine rep there and are quickly building it in the civilian market.

It's not only because they design and manufacture top quality holsters but they stand behind them so well and are good people to do business with.

PS: Look Shiny!!!! Gads... cannot believe I ended that sentence with a preposition. Sister Mary Alice would wack my knuckles till they bled for that one. So, "...they are good people with which to do business." Please don't hit me again sister! I'll do better!! They don't even teach that stuff now days, yet it was a go to hell offense then. Sigh.... what century do I live in anyway? Go from always mount your horse on the left side to always exhale when crossing the trans-light barrier.

eastenn
12-12-2011, 11:54 PM
They seem like a great company with fine products. The holsters are built like iron and should last a lifetime. The fit is fantastic. That said, personally I find the Silent Thunder heavy and bulky. With the kydex being leather lined, it was thick. Plus since it is tuckable, the belt clip attaches to the holster near the bottom and extends upward to the top of the holster. Therefore adding another even thicker layer of kydex, making the thick package thicker. There are many here who just love the holster. I do not. I sold it and bought a PJHolster (http://pjholster.com/) and I'm sooooooo glad I did. I'm not going hijack this thread and expand on my likes of the PJ. But, if you want I'd be glad to.


Thanks for the link to PJ holsters, that will be my next one. I've had crossbreeds and silent thunders and had never heard of PJ but they offer exactly what I had in mind for next: minimal, thin, and affordable. I'm thinking a CW45 paired with his tuckable IWB will make for a nice IWB setup, the thing I'm lacking with my current guns/holsters.

To stick with the subject, I second the others in that Garrett stands behind his product and offers great service.

JCP281
12-13-2011, 12:57 AM
hm didnt know about the "marketing agreement", just saw on their website they used to sell the silent thunder. Any who, i dont think ill be disappointed with the under cover.

ron61
12-13-2011, 09:20 AM
Tucker makes a fine product but I would have to argue that the ST is thicker than the cover up. 6-7 oz. leather is going to be somewhere between 115 to 145 thousands of an inch thick and the ST runs in at approx. .140 on the sidewalls. Also as stated on the Tucker site the mouth is not reinforced so one handed reholstering goes out the window. Not knocking Tucker at all, just pointing out the difference, (or lack thereof) regarding thickness.

There was a marketing agreement between Garrett and Tucker that is why you will never see a Silent Thunder holster with a "Maker Tucker" stamp on it.

OldLincoln
12-13-2011, 12:17 PM
Since Ron61 is Ron Garrett of Garrett Industries you can trust what he says.

MLESa7990
12-13-2011, 01:17 PM
might need to snatch up one of these

JCP281
12-14-2011, 01:25 AM
Tucker makes a fine product but I would have to argue that the ST is thicker than the cover up. 6-7 oz. leather is going to be somewhere between 115 to 145 thousands of an inch thick and the ST runs in at approx. .140 on the sidewalls. Also as stated on the Tucker site the mouth is not reinforced so one handed reholstering goes out the window. Not knocking Tucker at all, just pointing out the difference, (or lack thereof) regarding thickness.

There was a marketing agreement between Garrett and Tucker that is why you will never see a Silent Thunder holster with a "Maker Tucker" stamp on it.

Personally i never understood the whole...re-holstering thing.. I mean lets be honest here.. if I actually need to use my pistol in a defensive role, who gives a darn if I can re-holster it one handed. I wont...i can promise you that. Im going to be worried about a whole mess of other things.

Markis82
12-14-2011, 05:59 AM
Personally i never understood the whole...re-holstering thing.. I mean lets be honest here.. if I actually need to use my pistol in a defensive role, who gives a darn if I can re-holster it one handed. I wont...i can promise you that. Im going to be worried about a whole mess of other things.+1!!!

Thunder71
12-14-2011, 07:17 AM
When the cops show up I'd rather have it holstered than in my hand... and under stress/adrenaline that's a lot easier with a holster that's made for one handed re-holstering.

Markis82
12-14-2011, 07:32 AM
When the cops show up I'd rather have it holstered than in my hand... and under stress/adrenaline that's a lot easier with a holster that's made for one handed re-holstering.Not I!! I'd have the weapon drawn until help arrives. When the police show up, I'd put the pistol on the ground and not have a concealed weapon on me.

340pd
12-14-2011, 07:53 AM
I think the ability to holster one handed is an necessity. It insures a great presentation every time regardless of the belt or the belt tension I am wearing. It allows me to re holster without the gyrations that I used to do with some previous holsters that collapse when the gun is removed. I generally prefer a reinforced leather setup but Garrett's leather lined kydex is a very nice product and I find I am grabbing that holster over my leather options.

ron61
12-14-2011, 07:31 PM
Not I!! I'd have the weapon drawn until help arrives. When the police show up, I'd put the pistol on the ground and not have a concealed weapon on me.

There are many reasons to be able to reholster quickly and easily.

If you can reholster one handed easily you will practice more and become more proficient at your personal manual of arms. You may be the best shot in the world but that won't help if you are down with two in the chest before you can bring your gun into the fight. Let's look at some other reasons.

1. If I am wounded in my support arm I can still reholster and reload.

2. You can't always stand your ground. A tactical retreat from a group of gang bangers is a lot safer with the weapon reholstered than running down the street flailing a firearm around. What would you do if a guy came running down the street at you with a gun in his hand???

3. Millions of crimes are averted each year by the mere presentation of a weapon. Are you going to stand there and call the cops after a thwarted mugging with your gun out? Also going through an uncomfortable series of contortions to reholster your weapon does not inspire confidence in onlookers. In this age of information you could get home just in time to find out you are the star of the viral youtube video called " doofus with a gun"

4. Here's a scenario. You have been the victim of an attempted mugging and you did not have to shoot the guy but have him apprehended. Are you going to stand there and point a gun at the guy the whole time you are waiting for the police. I would imagine that would attract quite a bit if attention. What if another CCW shows up and thinks YOU are the mugger?
Maybe nothing but I can tell you this. There will be several moments where your attention is not on the bad guy like it should be. The way I would handle the situation is this. I would have the bad guy go to the ground, face down with his face pointing away from me. I would then reholster and while maintaining a full firing grip on my weapon, phone the cops. If it is going to take a bit of time, as it well can I would even let the bad guy sit up, still facing away from me, head down with elbows on knees, palms up, and wait. I am not threatening anyone, I am not making any aggressive movements. Heck at this point I just look like a guy standing with his hand on his hip taking care of my drunk buddy. When said cops arrive I put my hands high and tell them first that I am the one that made the call, and then that I am armed. I have not tampered with the guy in any way and any and all weapons or contraband the BG has on him is his and does not have my fingerprints on it.

5. Standing over a body with a gun out when the cops arrive is a good way to get shot. Your survival is at the mercy of the least intelligent and worse trained responder. When they get on scene you will be told to "DROP IT!!!" and any other movement will get you dead. Stooping over can be seen as a defensive posture or an attempt to conceal something. At the very least I don't want to drop any of my weapons onto concrete from shoulder level. If for any reason there is a discharge, guess who buys the farm. I also don't want to damage property that I will get back when I am found not guilty.

I could go on and on but you can see the point.

When you carry a firearm you undertake a very heavy burden and you owe it to yourself and society at large to be proficient and knowledgeable in the use and code of conduct associated with your weapon. There is no greater fodder for anti gun elements in this country than an encounter gone bad.

ron61
12-16-2011, 06:04 PM
Sorry guys. I didn't mean to be a conversation killer.

vipir
12-16-2011, 07:38 PM
Thank you for your input Ron.

OldLincoln
12-16-2011, 09:12 PM
You didn't kill the thread, you only answered the questions effectively. If Bawanna were hanging about no doubt he'd ask more.