Factory night sights vs. others

[mspiredm3]

Hey guys! About to purchase a PM9 tomorrow and was wondering if you guys prefer the factory night sights or aftermarkets? Which and why?

Thanks guys! Very excited!

[wyntrout]

If you buy one with the sights installed, it's cheaper than shipping both ways and installation AND the cost of the sights... plus they should be aligned properly. Of course, you can have that done locally, but it will probably still cost more. Be aware that some night sights may have lost half their useful life hanging on the wall of a gun store. I've seen NS that were SIX years old ready for sale. The half life of the Tritium gas is about 12 years for the green ones. That's when I had my Trijicon NS on my '98 K9 replaced by the factory... $54 for relamping, including return shipping... for Trijicon sights only, though. I sent them my slide USPS Priority for about $5, so that was a good deal.

Wynn:)

[Popeye]

I have the factory Tru dot sights on mine and could not be happier. In a dark room there clear and sharp. I think if they were any brighter they might wash each other out and make it very difficult to line up on target. Even being woken from a sleep there pretty easy for your eyes to adjust to. Just one mans opinion.

[muggsy]

Most serious social engagements occur at 21 feet and under. During those engagements the sights are seldom used. It takes an assailant about 2.5 seconds to close from 21 feet. You are generally only going to have time to point and shoot in that type of altercation. Practice point and shoot and you'll be surprised at how proficient you can become. Having said that I plan to replace the front sight on my CM9. I don't like the fact that it is made of polymer. Kahr should make the front sight from steel or offer a standard white dot steel replacement. Are you listening Kahr?

[Popeye]

muggsy

I can understnd where your coming from,as I used to think the same way,as why would I want night sights. Then I bought the PM9 that had them on it already. That is when I realized that they are every nice to have on a pistol. I guess that why so many Leo's have them on there guns.

[wyntrout]

Night sights are another one of those things it's nice to have and not "need", than to need and not HAVE! I want every edge I can afford... and be prepared for whatever as best I can.

Wynn:)

[jocko]

muggsy

I can understnd where your coming from,as I used to think the same way,as why would I want night sights. Then I bought the PM9 that had them on it already. That is when I realized that they are every nice to have on a pistol. I guess that why so many Leo's have them on there guns.

even more important for LEO'S..

[mspiredm3]

Thanks guys, looks like the factory night sights will be just fine :)

Did't purchase the gun as I think (hope?) that the wifey is getting me it for the holidays :biggrin1:


Night sights are another one of those things it's nice to have and not "need", than to need and not HAVE! I want every edge I can afford... and be prepared for whatever as best I can.

Wynn:)

I agree!

[TriggerMan]

Most serious social engagements occur at 21 feet and under. During those engagements the sights are seldom used. It takes an assailant about 2.5 seconds to close from 21 feet. You are generally only going to have time to point and shoot in that type of altercation. Practice point and shoot and you'll be surprised at how proficient you can become. Having said that I plan to replace the front sight on my CM9. I don't like the fact that it is made of polymer. Kahr should make the front sight from steel or offer a standard white dot steel replacement. Are you listening Kahr?The well known study (Tueller) has that distance covered in 1.5 seconds. From Wiki:
The Tueller Drill is a self-defense (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Self-defense) training exercise to prepare against a short-range knife attack when armed only with a holstered (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Holster) handgun (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Handgun).
Sergeant (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Sergeant) Dennis Tueller, of the Salt Lake City, Utah (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Salt_Lake_City,_Utah) Police (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Police) Department wondered how quickly an attacker with a knife could cover 21 feet (6.4 m). So he timed volunteers as they raced to stab the target. He determined that it could be done in 1.5 seconds. These results were first published as an article in SWAT magazine in 1983 and in a police training video by the same title, "How Close is Too Close?"[1] (http://kahrtalk.com/#cite_note-0)
A defender with a gun has a dilemma. If he shoots too early, he risks being charged with murder (http://kahrtalk.com/wiki/Murder). If he waits until the attacker is definitely within striking range so there is no question about motives, he risks injury and even death. The Tueller experiments quantified a "danger zone" where an attacker presented a clear threat.[2] (http://kahrtalk.com/#cite_note-1)
In Michigan, if an assailant is NOT armed with a gun, I may not shoot him until he is inside 21 feet. If he has a firearm, all distance bets are off.

[mspiredm3]

In Michigan, if an assailant is NOT armed with a gun, I may not shoot him until he is inside 21 feet. If he has a firearm, all distance bets are off.

"Hang on one second bro, let me measure this distance real quick and decide if you live or die"

"Ok, move forward 1.32 inches, I dare ya!"

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