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    Quote Originally Posted by Antarius View Post
    Thats not true. Kahr's website says Kahr pistols ARE +P rated.

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    In the real world, there's almost no reason to run +p ammo as the short barrel doesn't really give it enough time to generate much more velocity.
    they are rated for +P butnot for +P+. buy a 40 cal if u desire more ump..
    . My PM9 has over 40,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    Quote Originally Posted by Antarius View Post
    Thats not true. Kahr's website says Kahr pistols ARE +P rated.
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    In the real world, there's almost no reason to run +p ammo as the short barrel doesn't really give it enough time to generate much more velocity.

    He's talking about +P+, there's a difference to the +P you're talking about.

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    Ohhhh. Fair enough!

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    The +P+ designation is not currently used by the SAAMI, but is used by some manufacturers to designate loads that exceed the +P SAAMI specification(38,500 psi). One source lists the 9 × 19 mm +P+ loading as having a pressure of 42,000 psi, an 18% increase over the standard pressure of 35,000 psi.

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    Keep an eye on your mag followers. I think just NATO rounds busted mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skiflydive View Post
    Keep an eye on your mag followers. I think just NATO rounds busted mine.
    busted followers are not caused by hot rounds. ur feed ramp is hitting ur follower and causing it. Get a new follower and if it happes againn call kahr and ask for a pickup to make it right..Just sayin
    . My PM9 has over 40,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    Quote Originally Posted by jocko View Post
    busted followers are not caused by hot rounds. ur feed ramp is hitting ur follower and causing it. Get a new follower and if it happes againn call kahr and ask for a pickup to make it right..Just sayin
    The feed ramp never hit/damaged the follower until I shot hotter rounds...Just sayin'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jocko View Post
    busted followers are not caused by hot rounds. ur feed ramp is hitting ur follower and causing it. Get a new follower and if it happes againn call kahr and ask for a pickup to make it right..Just sayin
    Don'tcha think that maybe part of the problem is caused by the frame flexing and allowing the follower to hit the ramp? Possibly why you see the issue more in polymer framed Kahrs? If so, hotter rounds could contribute to broken followers. Just wonderin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antarius View Post
    Thats not true. Kahr's website says Kahr pistols ARE +P rated.
    That's true. Kahr pistols are rated for +P ammo, but they are not rated for +P+ ammo. There is a difference between +P and +P+. Read your manual again. It not nice to contradict Muggsy. I'm keeping an eye on you, Antarius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jocko View Post
    they are rated for +P butnot for +P+. buy a 40 cal if u desire more ump..
    Or more umph, whatever the case may be. How ya doin Jocko.
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