Found a P45 with crimson trace

[Bawanna]

I guess I think of it as another tool in the tool box myself.
When I had mine on I put a piece of tape over it at the range except when I was using it.

They are a great training aid watching a new shooter as you and everyone else at the range can tell what they are doing prior to and during the trigger pull.

[jcannady]

Lasers are a crutch? Does that include the US armed forces and the SWAT teams that use them? At night, in a dark alley or a theater full of people, I would rather be able to put a bright red dot on the threat than hope I am sighted on him. I don't use it at the range, I don't think I would rely on it in a daylight threat situation...but when it is dark, or in a dark room...I'm happy to have it.

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Yes, a crutch. If you focus on that tiny dot you will not develop proper shooting techniques. You will rely on seeing that damn dot. If you have never had a crimson trace laser lose battery power or shift alignment or have the aperture get clogged with lint so you can't see it, just wait, your time is coming. Just think of it this way, if you've been so focused on that tiny dot in your practice, what happens when you actually need the gun for real and you don't have the dot because of a malfunction? You'll waste critical seconds looking for a dot that's not there.

On the other hand, it's your life. Good luck!


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[MyOtherKahr]

Yes, a crutch. If you focus on that tiny dot you will not develop proper shooting techniques. You will rely on seeing that damn dot. If you have never had a crimson trace laser lose battery power or shift alignment or have the aperture get clogged with lint so you can't see it, just wait, your time is coming. Just think of it this way, if you've been so focused on that tiny dot in your practice, what happens when you actually need the gun for real and you don't have the dot because of a malfunction? You'll waste critical seconds looking for a dot that's not there.

On the other hand, it's your life. Good luck!


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I totally see your point...although I would not train with a laser or a flashlight, I do consider them useful and a tool to increase my odds. But yes...if I relied on these devices, I would be foolishly assuming they would always work and that is not correct. Thanks for your perspective.

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[rowdy115]

I have a crimson trace on my CM9. I'm also a very good shot with iron sights, I just like to be able to shoot the thing with both eyes open. Its a lot of fun. To each their own I suppose