Who else wants a double stack Kahr?

[King Rat]

The thing I don't like about that Reflex is that they say it's single action - and it has no external safety. I didn't buy a Sig P320 X10 specifically because the SA trigger is so good but it has no external safety (I prefer thumb over trigger safety). I like the 365xl with thumb safety for the same reason. And it holds 12-15 rounds (not that I care much about that). If you're going without a frame mounted thumb safety, the best system IMO is a nice smooth DAO like the Kahr.

Agree, but I think we are not in the same percentage of shooters that would like a frame safety. Mpst want the lightest, and shortest reset. Not many around frame safeties out there.. The Popular Sig 365XL and the Smith Pluse, and I think the Mossberg has one. I would like to see this gun in person. Look at the pic of the trigger. Looks wide.

[187911]

Lol, Look who is offended now. Hey, I respect your opinion, how about doing the same. Have a nice day.

Gaslight much? I'm not offended at all, but simply stated I would stop talking about it because others don't like to hear negative news about Kahr. Nothing wrong with being a niche in the market just as long as there continues to be a market for that niche which doesn't seem to be the case as time marches on. Work on your trolling and gaslighting skills.

[187911]

The thing I don't like about that Reflex is that they say it's single action - and it has no external safety. I didn't buy a Sig P320 X10 specifically because the SA trigger is so good but it has no external safety (I prefer thumb over trigger safety). I like the 365xl with thumb safety for the same reason. And it holds 12-15 rounds (not that I care much about that). If you're going without a frame mounted thumb safety, the best system IMO is a nice smooth DAO like the Kahr.

I concur with King Rat that the market is anti thumb safety for defensive guns that aren't 1911s. The difference between a P365 the like triggers and traditional SAO triggers is the initial length of travel and trigger weight. The SAO trigger weight and length of pull on most 1911 and DA/SA handguns in SAO mode is lighter and shorter than what's typical found on stock carry/duty striker fired handguns. Because of the aforementioned, the fact that most triggers have the trigger safeties, and people don't train enough to have muscle memory to swip off the safety, thumb safeties aren't that popular, and most thinks it's unnecessary for striker fired pistols.

At least the Springfield Hellcat, S&W M&P Shield line, and the Sig P365 offer that option for those who want it, so that's a plus.

[King Rat]

Well, this site is an arm of sorts (or something) with Kahr, maybe they'll do a special run.

I also prefer the slim size. I view Kahr as a good "compact auto" and that is the role it fills for me. I would like to see a 4 inch barreled model, say a T9 slide on the K9 grip but it's not that big of a deal.

If I want higher capacity I would carry a Browning Hi Power and may do that yet although the BHP would need some custom work and I'd have to get a holster made for it.

I think in all of them the longer barrels are the new trend. EX. Sig 365 XL, GX4XL and on and on.

[DavidR]

I concur with King Rat that the market is anti thumb safety for defensive guns that aren't 1911s. The difference between a P365 the like triggers and traditional SAO triggers is the initial length of travel and trigger weight. The SAO trigger weight and length of pull on most 1911 and DA/SA handguns in SAO mode is lighter and shorter than what's typical found on stock carry/duty striker fired handguns. Because of the aforementioned, the fact that most triggers have the trigger safeties, and people don't train enough to have muscle memory to swip off the safety, thumb safeties aren't that popular, and most thinks it's unnecessary for striker fired pistols.

At least the Springfield Hellcat, S&W M&P Shield line, and the Sig P365 offer that option for those who want it, so that's a plus.

Agree.

I have a Shield Plus and 3 variants of P365s all without thumb safeties. My LCPs and CT380 do not have thumb safeties. I also removed the thumb safety from my Shield 380 EZ.

[DavidR]

The NRA Convention is underway. Anxiously awaiting the big announcement.

[King Rat]

You want THIN, you got THIN! Then and 15 that is. What do you want? Eggs with your Beer?

Almost forgot about this 15 rounder. And a incredible .85" of thinness. "Hailed by KelTec as the lightest and thinnest of its kind, the P15 is also its first striker-fire pistol. Similarly, chambered in 9mm the P15 features a patent-pending 15 round extended magazine. As a result, comes a concealed carry option that virtually disappears when concealed but offers high capacity for defensive carry.

The Magic number now is 15

[FreeMe]

Agree, but I think we are not in the same percentage of shooters that would like a frame safety. Mpst want the lightest, and shortest reset. Not many around frame safeties out there.. The Popular Sig 365XL and the Smith Pluse, and I think the Mossberg has one. I would like to see this gun in person. Look at the pic of the trigger. Looks wide.

I think all the iterations of the Shield can be had with a thumb safety. And their new aluminum frame CSX as well. I like a wide trigger, but that can be more easily snagged when holstering, so....

[FreeMe]

I concur with King Rat that the market is anti thumb safety for defensive guns that aren't 1911s. The difference between a P365 the like triggers and traditional SAO triggers is the initial length of travel and trigger weight. The SAO trigger weight and length of pull on most 1911 and DA/SA handguns in SAO mode is lighter and shorter than what's typical found on stock carry/duty striker fired handguns. Because of the aforementioned, the fact that most triggers have the trigger safeties, and people don't train enough to have muscle memory to swip off the safety, thumb safeties aren't that popular, and most thinks it's unnecessary for striker fired pistols.

At least the Springfield Hellcat, S&W M&P Shield line, and the Sig P365 offer that option for those who want it, so that's a plus.

No argument there.

[FreeMe]

You want THIN, you got THIN! Then and 15 that is. What do you want? Eggs with your Beer?

Almost forgot about this 15 rounder. And a incredible .85" of thinness. "Hailed by KelTec as the lightest and thinnest of its kind, the P15 is also its first striker-fire pistol. Similarly, chambered in 9mm the P15 features a patent-pending 15 round extended magazine. As a result, comes a concealed carry option that virtually disappears when concealed but offers high capacity for defensive carry.

The Magic number now is 15

I think KT has the right idea here, and I hope the execution is good. Since the advent of the XDM series, I am a fan of those Springfields. Hopefully, this grip safety works better than those on the S&W EZ.