Happiness is a new gun 2

[BirdsThaWord]

If you're going to do the slide Bird, think about just stripping it first and seeing how it looks. I just have a feeling that it will be very appealing with that patina look, and no swirls, because the frame has them. You can always put the swirls on it later.

I'm definitely in agreeance with you on that. I think less is more quite often. On the RIA, a few folks asked if I thought to make the slide match. I explained that I had, but thought that it would be too much.

[dao]

The more we talk Bird the more I begin to think we might be related

Hey Colonel, when you bobbed one of your Commanders awhile back, how did you figure out where to drill the holes for the MSH? I'm tentatively thinking of turning my Tisas Carry into a bobtail, because being stainless it would be a fairly simple matter to make it look right after cutting and grinding on it. but I'm sure if I didn't get the holes in exactly the right place it would mean making them larger to overcome the misalignment.

[Bawanna]

I got a jig that must be used on a machinist drill press. I couldn't make it work for me. But it did give me the correct distance. I ended up with my trusty Stanley 25 foot tape and plotted the new hole. I then drilled the smallest drill I had to confirm I had it in the right spot. Gradually bigger. Finally finished with a chainsaw file to make sure I didn't get too big or out of alignment.
I cut the corner with a hack saw, leaving just a bit long and then filed it down to fit.
Think I've done 3 now and so far haven't ruined a frame yet. Still scary, but I do like a bobtail. My Tisas Carry came bobtailed.

[BirdsThaWord]

The more we talk Bird the more I begin to think we might be related

Hey Colonel, when you bobbed one of your Commanders awhile back, how did you figure out where to drill the holes for the MSH? I'm tentatively thinking of turning my Tisas Carry into a bobtail, because being stainless it would be a fairly simple matter to make it look right after cutting and grinding on it. but I'm sure if I didn't get the holes in exactly the right place it would mean making them larger to overcome the misalignment.

Brave soul dao! Not sure I will ever go there. Maybe if whiskey is involved, but then that would make it worse!

[dao]

Thanks for the info Colonel. Can you point me to that jig that includes hole placement? Also, when you say machinists drill press, is there a reason that you know of why my benchtop 12" drill press wouldn't work with the jig?

I did say tentative Bird. Not sure yet that I want to take the chance. But when you get down to it, like the Colonel I much prefer a bobtail. And a challenge is usually welcome, though this one is daunting for sure.

This is the Tisas Carry I'm considering Colonel

[Bawanna]

Thanks for the info Colonel. Can you point me to that jig that includes hole placement? Also, when you say machinists drill press, is there a reason that you know of why my benchtop 12" drill press wouldn't work with the jig?

I did say tentative Bird. Not sure yet that I want to take the chance. But when you get down to it, like the Colonel I much prefer a bobtail. And a challenge is usually welcome, though this one is daunting for sure.

This is the Tisas Carry I'm considering Colonel

I don't know for sure how to use the jig, it's like you have to line up the original hole somehow and then line up the new hole, but when the jig is in place the hole is of course hidden. Maybe it's simple and I just don't get it. I have a good drill press but it didn't help a bit figuring where to put the hole. Let me look for the jig.

This is the jig, it's pricey. I'll find mine and just send it down to you. Not much to it but other than giving the right location not much help. It'll be a bit, wife is on a cruise and she does the post office. I can't stand that place, avoid it at all cost.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/ed-brow...ation-jig.html

[Ken L]

I don't know for sure how to use the jig, it's like you have to line up the original hole somehow and then line up the new hole, but when the jig is in place the hole is of course hidden. Maybe it's simple and I just don't get it. I have a good drill press but it didn't help a bit figuring where to put the hole. Let me look for the jig.

This is the jig, it's pricey. I'll find mine and just send it down to you. Not much to it but other than giving the right location not much help. It'll be a bit, wife is on a cruise and she does the post office. I can't stand that place, avoid it at all cost.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/ed-brow...ation-jig.html

Bawanna, correct me if I'm wrong. Looks like there is a step of sorts on the jig that the frame rests against. Couldn't a fella put the jig on the outside of the frame, use a longer pin to locate the original msh hole in the jig, then use the bobtail hole to drill the first side? After that, put the jig inside, put the pin back in the original msh hole, and finish the second hole for the bobtail? I can't really tell so much from the picture because I'm not able to zoom in so I may be way off.

[BirdsThaWord]

I don't know for sure how to use the jig, it's like you have to line up the original hole somehow and then line up the new hole, but when the jig is in place the hole is of course hidden. Maybe it's simple and I just don't get it. I have a good drill press but it didn't help a bit figuring where to put the hole. Let me look for the jig.

This is the jig, it's pricey. I'll find mine and just send it down to you. Not much to it but other than giving the right location not much help. It'll be a bit, wife is on a cruise and she does the post office. I can't stand that place, avoid it at all cost.

https://www.opticsplanet.com/ed-brow...ation-jig.html

dao, daunting I would say, but you’ve taken on some daunting stuff already. I see that jig now and think I would actually do it with that. If me I would align it and pin it (pin through the bottom hole, into the existing pin hole of the frame) OUTSIDE of the frame, then scribe or punch through the hole where the new location is supposed to be. I may be wrong, but that’s what I would do.

[BirdsThaWord]

The trigger and buffalo horn grips came in for the Garisson. I think it’s a nice match up with the RIA and a lot better than that copper mess that was on there
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[BirdsThaWord]

Bawanna, correct me if I'm wrong. Looks like there is a step of sorts on the jig that the frame rests against. Couldn't a fella put the jig on the outside of the frame, use a longer pin to locate the original msh hole in the jig, then use the bobtail hole to drill the first side? After that, put the jig inside, put the pin back in the original msh hole, and finish the second hole for the bobtail? I can't really tell so much from the picture because I'm not able to zoom in so I may be way off.

Not sure why I did not see your post Ken, but you beat me to it on the outside the frame thing.